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Ecosystem Shift 6,000 Years Ago Caused By Humans [New Gambit By Warmistas]
December 17, 2015 | rabid paid minions of the Warmistas

Posted on 12/17/2015 2:55:08 PM PST by kiryandil

Uh, oh - a new front in the Warmistas' War on the Truth has been opened.

I guess it's nice to get a paycheck to sit around all day and dream these things up...

Teh Smithsonian writes: "It's hard to imagine a global force strong enough to change natural patterns that have persisted on Earth for more than 300 million years, but a new study shows that human beings have been doing exactly that for about 6,000 years..."

The Warmistas have published a "study" in Nature magazine:

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nature16447.html

It's probably pure propaganda, as evidenced by a co-author, a professor of botany at the University of Wisconsin-Madison [aka The Berkeley of the Midwest].


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Politics; Religion; Science
KEYWORDS: epa; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; popefrancis; romancatholicism
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To: kiryandil

If you read the article, it is a classic example of specious causality. This “random pair” shift occurred about 6,000 years ago. Incidentally, that’s about the time sedentary agriculture began to emerge and human communities began to form. So of course, the latter MUST be the cause of the former.


21 posted on 12/17/2015 3:30:47 PM PST by IronJack
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To: jpsb

But it is not hard to believe that GOD had a great impact at that time! This was when He set up the Garden of Eden and breathed life into Adam and Eve. After the fall, they were expelled from Eden and GOD cursed the ground, so that would be another climate impact.

Wait until the alarmist say about climate change when the Tribulation starts. Maranatha


22 posted on 12/17/2015 3:32:17 PM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: kiryandil

“...Co-occurrences of most taxon pairs...”

Too racy for me. I mean, I’ve seen pairs, nice ones. But never more than a nice pair at a time.


23 posted on 12/17/2015 3:32:25 PM PST by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: kiryandil
Yep, caused by:


24 posted on 12/17/2015 3:33:57 PM PST by TruthWillWin (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: kiryandil
Nah! Not the Romans.

I think we should finally acknowledge what many blacks have been telling us about where civilization began.

It was the Africans!

/s

25 posted on 12/17/2015 3:35:17 PM PST by mellow velo
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To: jpsb
6000 years ago is 1,500 years before the Great Pyramids were built. Hard to believe man could have much of an impact that far back.

Well, it was a subtle change back then. But, 1,500 years later, when the Egyptians started flying around in airplanes, it really took off.

26 posted on 12/17/2015 3:36:55 PM PST by Rinnwald
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To: Shadow44

Remember when Science used to have falsifiability as their cornerstone?

Yeah, those days are long gone.


Yup


27 posted on 12/17/2015 3:39:37 PM PST by samtheman (I support Trump)
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To: kiryandil
Prove it.


28 posted on 12/17/2015 3:39:47 PM PST by darkwing104 (Forgive but don't forget)
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To: kiryandil

These Climate Change fools believe in “Evolution” as much as they do in “Climate Change”. Yet when Nature evolves Homo Sapiens the first they they do is WHINE about what Homo Sapiens is doing.

We had tooth and claw evolution for land animals for over 300 million years and would have more of the same had Humans not evolved a big enough brain and the limbs to manipulate their own living environment.

But the Climate Change crowd betrays their OWN philosophy and apparently rails AGAINST the evolution they hold as a high sacrement!


29 posted on 12/17/2015 3:42:23 PM PST by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: dirtymac

How amazing; who would’ve thunk it! Not bad for a species that the idiots on the left think are too stupid to live.


30 posted on 12/17/2015 3:54:47 PM PST by Jean2 (ox)
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To: kiryandil

I have a degree in Anthropology/Archaeology with a Minor in Geology, plus graduate studies in Anthropology, and, to quote the actor Sal Bisiglio, the Indian Chief in “THe Frisco Kid”, when reading a Torah Rabbi (Gene Wilder) was carrying, “I’ve read the whole thing and didn’t understand a single word of it”.

Now you know why I quit wanting to be an Anthropologist. Half of them are crazy and the other half are questionable.

Since the Big Ice Age ended about 11-12,000 years ago, it is logical that animal and plant life would change with the retreating of the ice, more green plants able to grow (i.e. food for herbivores), and more animals for humans to hunt for food (There were no McDonald’s around yet. I can just image some Mastodon hunter asking his fellow hunters, after cooking a kill, “You want fries with that?”).

Just like shit, “CHANGE HAPPENS”. Man has had an effect on the land/waters but just how much is debatable and should be subject to a scientifically honest study effort, not PC environBabble and “modeling” as the truth.

The only “modeling” I liked was putting together Marx, Revell and Aurora air planes, ships, and tanks. I never sniffed the glue but some of these scientists today seem to be doing it by the bucket.

I love science and teach my granddaughter how to find minerals, fossils, unusual rocks, as well as how to recognize plants and trees, etc. You get the idea. We buy a lot of “Guides” to plants/flowers, animals, trees, butterflies and birds so that she can learn about them long before seeing them.

Our background is a mini-nature preserve and learning center. No “modeling”, no “speculation”, no guestimation. Just empirical observations over time, with photos.

We have had “Voodoo Economics” and now we have “Voodoo Science”, to the detriment of society and education.

A good scientist and teacher is worth their weight in gold, and I’ve been fortunate enough to have had many of them. I pity the kids today who get Grant-Chasers and Science Speculators rather than the old-time scientists who followed Kameney’s 10 steps to empirical science, from Hypothesis to Experimentation to Final Analysis and Conclusions.

PS: Not all the scientists listed in the credits for this study are frauds or incompetent. I suspect that many are honest people who work hard, but if they have allowed themselves to be coopted by the leftist “Climate Change Uber Alles” school, then “Science, we have a problem.”


31 posted on 12/17/2015 3:55:43 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: kiryandil

Salting the Erf is a bad practice.


Dang them Romans!


#CarthaginianLivesMatter


32 posted on 12/17/2015 4:00:48 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: kiryandil

SUV’s and incandescent bulbs were around 6,000 years ago?

Who knew?


33 posted on 12/17/2015 4:08:35 PM PST by Arm_Bears (Biology is biology. Everything else is imagination.)
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To: kiryandil

Junk science mag, badly written, fits nicely in the waste basket - I don’t have a fireplace so I can’t speak to its fire starting abilities.

If it is from DC, it has an agenda ...


34 posted on 12/17/2015 4:34:11 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: kaehurowing
#CarthaginianLivesMatter

"Ceterum autem censeo Carthaginem esse delendam" (English: "Furthermore, (moreover) I consider that Carthage must be destroyed") often abbreviated to "Ceterum censeo", "Carthago delenda set", or "Delenda est Carthago"[1] (English: "Carthage must be destroyed")
Isn't the destruction of the Ba'al worshipping, child sacrificing Carthaginian culture an example of cultural imperialism!

As for 6k years back, that would be about 4k BC when human population is estimated at being between 7 & 9 million globally, scattered on 4 continents, Africa, Asia, Europe and Australia. It was mid-Neolithic which translates to farming, domesticated animals but minimal-to-none cities in the most advanced areas. That is enough to change climate? Pardon my laughter!

35 posted on 12/17/2015 4:55:11 PM PST by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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To: JimSEA
A polemic unsupported by even a cursory review of evidence of the huge variety of "climates" over the past 300 million years.

A "polemic" is the very word...

36 posted on 12/17/2015 6:34:29 PM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: kaehurowing
#CarthaginianLivesMatter

OMuslim Delenda Est!

37 posted on 12/17/2015 7:09:44 PM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
We buy a lot of "Guides" to plants/flowers, animals, trees, butterflies and birds so that she can learn about them long before seeing them.

Just passed the boxful from my childhood down to the grandchildren. :)

We have had "Voodoo Economics" and now we have "Voodoo Science", to the detriment of society and education.

The grant-chasing needs to end - but all those second homes at the lake need to be paid for...

38 posted on 12/17/2015 7:15:12 PM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: soycd

Excellent video! Thanks for posting!


39 posted on 12/17/2015 7:16:10 PM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: bunkerhill7
This is what happens when people stand with their feet facing the center of the earth on one side and people on the opposite side of the earth are laying flat sleeping at the same time.

We're lucky Eurasia didn't tip over this time, instead of just Guam...

40 posted on 12/17/2015 7:17:14 PM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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