Posted on 09/07/2015 2:37:39 PM PDT by Elderberry
This is the 114th day of the Twin Peaks Massacre coverup. It is worth noting for two lamentable reasons.
First, the degree to which government officials have been uncooperative, obstructive and evasive about the Massacre is prima facie evidence that there is an official coverup. There was no probable cause to believe that most of the 177, or 182, or so, people arrested that day were guilty of “engaging in organized criminal activity.” There is probable cause to believe that police murdered at least six men and may have attempted to murder 20 more.
The second reason to note the ongoing coverup is the apparent disappearance of what just a few years ago was being called “the investigative impulse” in American journalism. The investigative impulse began, according to Jon Marshall of Northwestern University’s Medill School of Journalism, “in the 1600s, when Enlightenment philosophers taught that ‘people have a right to question their leaders.’”
To its inerasable shame, the Waco Tribune-Herald has not noticed the coverup. To its credit, the Houston Chronicle has. “Any time a prosecutor’s office or a politician does not want people talking about something, one should raise a red flag and insist we talk about it,” a law professor named Patrick Metze told the Chronicle this morning. “They may say it is to protect the investigation, but they are protecting themselves from whatever it is that they don’t want us to see or know about.” You can read the entire Chronicle piece here.
Based on information supplied by various sources who believe their lives, careers and pensions are in actual danger and who have spoken with The Aging Rebel under conditions of either “off the record” or “deep background,” this page will continue to report that the Twin Peaks Massacre was the result of a contrived and avoidable confrontation between members of the Cossacks Motorcycle Club and the Bandidos Motorcycle Club. The Aging Rebel believes that the confrontation was engineered by and anticipated by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives; the Texas Department of Public Safety and a Waco area law enforcement agency that was not the Waco Police Department. The Aging Rebel also believes that these police agencies, and possibly the Waco Police Department, began physically preparing for an armed confrontation to include the use of deadly force in the Twin Peaks restaurant parking lot at or before dawn on May 17. And finally, this page believes the Massacre was captured in its entirety by at least 44 video cameras. Investigating This Mess
The Associated Press defines information gained “off the record” as information that “cannot be used for publication.” The same news agency and most publications define “deep background” as information that “can be used but without attribution. The source does not want to be identified in any way, even on condition of anonymity.” Generally, information gained off the record can only be used after being substantiated by additional independent sources. Off the record information tells reporters where to llok and what to look for.
Off the record information about federal police actions is often substantiated by filing Freedom of Information Act requests with, for example, the Disclosure Division of the ATF. The information requests involving bikers are almost routinely denied on the grounds of either what the FOIA Act calls “Exemption Seven” or one of three “Exclusions.”
The exempt information is defined as, “Certain types of information compiled for law enforcement purposes.” The three exclusions are: One, “Subject of a criminal investigation or proceeding is unaware of the existence of records concerning the pending investigation or proceeding and disclosure of such records would interfere with the investigation or proceeding;” two, “Informant records maintained by a criminal law enforcement agency and the individual’s status as an informant is not known; and three, “Existence of FBI foreign intelligence, counterintelligence or international terrorism records are classified fact.”
Exclusion three is one reason why motorcycle clubs are frequently described as “transnational gangs.”
Taken together, the exemption and exclusions explain why “gang investigations” are always classified as “ongoing” even when the newest information in those investigations is more than a decade old.
After a FOIA request is denied, large news gathering organizations and some private law firms have the means to bring suit in federal court to discover exempt and excluded information. The Aging Rebel does not have the resources to pursue such lawsuits at this time. This page is aware that many of its conclusions about what happened in Waco on May 17 are unsubstantiated sand have been described as “speculative.” As one 23-year-old reporter recently put it, “A blog favorable to motorcycle clubs citing an undisclosed source…is not credible.”
Credible or not, the authorities in Texas have been blatantly manipulating public opinion since the day of the Massacre and the Department of Justice has, as yet, not chosen to intervene. One plausible explanation for that inaction is that the Department of Justice has been involved since sometime before May 1.
The Aging Rebel stands by its coverage of the Waco Twin Peaks Massacre and will continue to pursue the story.
Quoting/misquoting that has always been, and will always be quoting/misquoting the bible.
Directly or indirectly, ALWAYS, it is quoting the bible. If an ignorant person thinks it originally came from the mind of a baby-boomer rock musician, the fact remains that it is a QUOTE/misquote FROM THE BIBLE.
You wouldn't know "due diligence" if it ran over the cheap Yugo you dress up with the phony name "mac truck."
Leave the REAL Mack Trucks to real Americans. You belong in Europe.
Exactly.
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck.....
I wonder how many millions McClellan Co. is gonna have to pay out in lawsuits? And after all this time I believe that’s what this is all about. Trying to reduce their liability.
Anyone want to bet on the over/under of felony convictions of the 177? Convictions, not plea bargains and no jail. Doing jail time convictions. After all, Criminal Biker gang members belong in jail don’t they?
“My stars ... all these residents of Texas — out of 177 arrestees, 176 of them were residents of Texas.”
How many of those lived in Texas for their entire lives Finny? You don’t know that do you? So this argument is also misleading.
“Technically you are quite correct — they only lacked criminal records in Texas.”
Criminal CONVICTIONS in Texas. That could be found through whatever source the AP reporter searched.
Perhaps you are unfamiliar with how criminal records work, but there does not exist any single database or source, even within one state, that would compile all criminal records. So unless someone physically goes to every county courthouse in the state to search the actual records, searching a single database is likely to miss quite a few records.
“There is this thing called common sense.”
Yes, you seem to be lacking in that department.
“I figure you got caught up..realized you screwed up misquoting Scripture, and scrambled around trying to find an out. “
The fact that I quoted exactly Pink Floyd, even the pauses and emphasis would lead a rational realization what I was quoting.
But, I know not to expect rational thoughts from those that promote totally made up conspiracies.
“I wouldn’t have repeated the “participating stuff” at 476, if you hadn’t used the word “participated” in the first place.”
I have no idea why you do the things you do, and I really have no interest in trying to puzzle it out.
“You said “When police witness you participating in a deadly gang fight, that’s all the probable cause they need.” My rebuttal is that according to the Texas Tenth Court of Appeals, the affidavit in support of arrest does not recite probable cause of participating in a deadly gang fight.”
Well, the 10th Courth of Appeals is not adjudicating this case. The judges who are adjudicating this case don’t agree with you or your interpretation of the Texas penal code and Texas judical decisions. Apparently, you fancy yourself more of an expert on those matters than sitting judges in Texas, but I don’t.
You said in your post you were listening to "the Led Zeppelin"...then you realized you screwed up..and posted the P.F. lyrics...
You are busted once again....and continue to try and lie your way out of it.
Fair enough...TG....just keep on being how you are........
“Love of money is the root of all evil.”
Geez. If you are going to say you are quoting the bible and put the words in quotes, you should at least quote the words correctly!
I'll play. Make the number, say 15? I'll take the under.
Unless you have an odd definition of "this case," the blockquote I gave is from the biker shooting incident at Twin Peaks in Waco, Texas on May 17, 2015. Texas Tenth Court of Appeals Case numbers given to you in an earlier post.
I don't mind being insulted, but you beclown yourself when your insults flow from your own ignorance. Not that there is anything wrong with being ignorant, we all have blind spots.
If they agreed with you, as you contend, then the case wouldn’t be proceeding, now would it?
Obviously the judges in Texas are not in agreement with you, buddy.
I don’t think you’re gonna get a lot of action at 15.
You might get someone to hook at say......5? Really, with all the dangerous criminals involved you would think the number would be at least close to half. If not more. They’re/were locked up on a criminal conspiracy right? Sounds pretty serious to me.
Your good idea. You set the number.
I’m going under so that’s not really fair.....65!!!!?
You would think....but no, nobody is that stupid. Well maybe a couple but I’d hate to take advantage....10? Probably still too high. But we’ll see.
“I don’t have my heels dug in here...I just want the truth to come out.”
I’d love to see the truth come out, but what I see instead is a whole bunch of people deciding that police committed some heinous miscarriage of justice before they have even seen the majority of the evidence in the case.
So if they aren’t going to wait for the truth to come out before making their claims, someone needs to point that out, and point out that a lot of the claims they are making are flat out contradicted by the information that is already available about this case.
That's the only exchange I intended to have with you. You keep trying to argue different points, and keep trying to put words in my mouth.
The only reason it took so long to get to that point is that you are intellectually dishonest, a careless reader, and you jump to conclusions.
Buddy. Ha. Listen, I find you to be an insufferable jerk, who is either not capable or not willing of participating in a reasoned discussion. I generally don't acknowledge remarks from your kind, and as remarked above, the only exchange I intended to have with you was to point out that the police have not alleged participation in a deadly gang fight, according to the appellate judges who adjudicated the issue of probable cause.
” the police have not alleged participation in a deadly gang fight”
Hmm, from the probable cause affidavit:
“During the course of the altercation, members and associates of the Cossacks and Banditos brandished and used firearms, knives, or other unknown edged weapons, batons, clubs, brass knuckles and other weapons,”
Boy, that sure sounds like they alleged participation in a deadly gang fight to me.
I was drinking wine listening to the Dark Side of the Moon album on headphones and none of the bots were on so I just threw up the one line to see what was in the water!
I didn’t realize that a whole school of bots would be jumping out of the water!
The miscarriage of justice that happened after the melee at the bar is indisputable. We’ll see what happened at the bar. Maybe. One day. If they will ever release the video.
It’s been brought up time and time again. If the video exonerated the police from any wrongdoing don’t you think that it would have been released? Law enforcement releases video all the time in criminal cases. The judge issues a gag order. For what?
$1,000,000 bonds “to teach them a lesson”? Not my words. And that’s just fine?
It sure does. But none of the affidavits allege that any given individual engaged in the action. There is no probable cause of participation recited against any person.
The only legal allegation that sticks, under the affidavit (which only controls existence of probable cause to justify arrest), is conspiracy; and that sticking is not agreed by all judges.
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