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Combat Roles Hazardous to Women’s Health
Canada Free Press ^ | 08/26/15 | Arnoild Ahlert

Posted on 08/26/2015 6:24:53 AM PDT by Sean_Anthony

The astounding female injury rates that are being hidden from the public -- and women in the military

Last week, 1st Lt. Shaye Haver, 25, and Capt. Kristen Griest, 26, became the first women to earn their Ranger Tabs, graduating from the U.S. Army’s Ranger School at Fort Benning, GA. Maj. Gen. Scott Miller, the guest speaker at the graduation ceremony, emphasized that both women were held to the same standards as their male counterparts, insisting “a 5-mile run is still a 5-mile run. Standards do not change. A 12-mile march is still a 12-mile march.” True enough. But as Center for Military Readiness (CMR) president Elaine Donnelly reveals, there is a jarring flaw in the military’s headlong rush to make men and women interchangeable cogs in combat arms units: previously-undisclosed military combat experiments demonstrate that women sustain injury rates at double the rate of men.

The grueling Ranger course, emphasizing physical strength and endurance, was launched on a one-time basis as part of the Army’s effort to determine which combat jobs can eventually be opened up to women. Women were part of the training at Fort Benning due to a January 2013 directive by senior Pentagon leaders to integrate women into front-line combat units, including the Army Rangers and Navy SEALs, by 2016.


TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Military/Veterans; Society
KEYWORDS: combat; military; women

1 posted on 08/26/2015 6:24:53 AM PDT by Sean_Anthony
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To: Sean_Anthony
There was an article (or maybe it was an interview?) of a very, very fit and capable female US soldier who served a couple tours in Afghanistan. She described how difficult it was physically for her to deal with "women's plumbing" and soreness in her hips/legs due to the different female bone structure.

I wish I could find that article. It was very honest and detailed with regard to women's abilities and shortcomings in combat and deployment.

2 posted on 08/26/2015 6:35:57 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: Sean_Anthony

Yep. May result in their own and other’s deaths when they try to save them. Bull dykes are probably okay though. For all intents and purposes guys look at them like another guy because they’re so damn ugly.


3 posted on 08/26/2015 6:37:05 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: GOP_Party_Animal
> The grueling Ranger course, emphasizing physical strength and endurance, was launched on a one-time basis as part of the Army’s effort to determine which combat jobs can eventually be opened up to women. Women were part of the training at Fort Benning due to a January 2013 directive by senior Pentagon leaders to integrate women into front-line combat units, including the Army Rangers and Navy SEALs, by 2016.

But to be fair I don't know if you can really classify these as women. You might call them men with vaginas:


4 posted on 08/26/2015 6:41:37 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Sean_Anthony
directive by senior Pentagon leaders to integrate women into front-line combat units

women sustain injury rates at double the rate of men


It's all a clever part of our war on women. Now that the secret is out and women have caught on, we'll have to change tactics, since they'll stop signing up for this double-dangerous duty.

/sarc
5 posted on 08/26/2015 6:44:34 AM PDT by LearsFool (Real men get their wives and children to heaven.)
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To: Sean_Anthony

6 posted on 08/26/2015 6:51:23 AM PDT by frithguild (The warmth and goodness of Gaia is a nuclear reactor in the Earth's core that burns Thorium)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

Their hip and knee joints have trouble with the heavy loads and torque. Basically, in combat you would have to drop what you are doing, pop their legs back in, and then go back to your .50 cal.


7 posted on 08/26/2015 6:55:56 AM PDT by olepap (Your old Pappy)
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To: jsanders2001

They would look pretty enough with hair. Make up and nice clothes secondary.

If they did go to combat, best they look unfeminine.


8 posted on 08/26/2015 6:56:36 AM PDT by heartwood
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To: Sean_Anthony

News flash! Combat is hazardous to men’s health too.


9 posted on 08/26/2015 7:12:46 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (Chris Stevens won't be running for president.)
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To: Sean_Anthony

Is anyone else troubled that, we are compelled by the liberals and the media, to view military issues as if the military is civilian life?

We would not discriminate against women in civilian life.

But the needs of the military, and the functioning and mission of the military is very different than civilian life.

We are compelled to look at this as some sort of civil rights issue, of equal rights for women. We are not allowed to look at this from the point of view of military readiness or the requirements of the military mission. We are not allowed to say that women do not belong in certain military jobs, because that would offend the sensibilities of liberals. Nobody seems to care about the mission of the military or how that mission is best accomplished.


10 posted on 08/26/2015 7:15:40 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Sean_Anthony
Combat roles by definition, are deadly, regardless of gender. But some women are made for it.
11 posted on 08/26/2015 7:21:08 AM PDT by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: Phlap

Actually, no women are made for it. Some women at the top end of the bell curve overlap where a lot of men are and can pass a test. Even a month of training. Or two.

But it is like trying to recruit old guys in the interest of fairness. I went to Afghanistan at 49. I rarely got off the FOB because no one WANTED me to go off the FOB with them.

I could do pretty good on a fitness test. I could stand up to combat duty for 4, 6 hours...maybe more, in a pinch. But I could not have done what the 20 year old guys were doing - going 18 hours, then the next day, then the next, and doing it for a year.

I suppose 1% of guys in the 50s could handle being a ground combat troop, which is quite different from deploying to a combat zone in a supporting role. But why would you waste time looking for them, when 70% of guys in their 20s can be trained to handle the work?

And if you seek out women instead of old guys, you add sex to the battlefield - NOT a good idea. But the Gods of the Copybook Headings will need to teach America the lesson...


12 posted on 08/26/2015 7:31:23 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: Mr Rogers

Things that lifetime civilians like me would never know. Thanks for the insight.


13 posted on 08/26/2015 8:02:14 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: Sean_Anthony

How can this be? Progressives have said on one hand that women are too weak and frail to manage to hold a gun so that they can defend themselves from rapists and on the other that they are perfectly capable of becoming Seals or Rangers.


14 posted on 08/26/2015 12:28:33 PM PDT by Ann de IL
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To: jsanders2001

That may be true, however they look at other women like fresh meet. They are (in my experience) as coercive as any guy. During my time in the Hampton Roads area, I had a Chaplain friend at Fort Eustis who said he was approached by women on a daily basis who were disgusted at the level of lesbianism in the barracks. Of course, now it is legal and encouraged.


15 posted on 09/03/2015 5:34:54 PM PDT by MSF BU (Support the troops: Join Them.)
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To: Mr Rogers

It is never a good idea to introduce the romantic element into the combat team. Then again, the Burr & Romney males don’t want to serve so you have to go at 49...plus the gals man enough to serve.


16 posted on 09/03/2015 5:37:40 PM PDT by MSF BU (Support the troops: Join Them.)
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