Posted on 08/19/2015 6:02:18 AM PDT by don-o
Yesterday in Waco, a judge named James Morgan, ruled that there was probable cause to arrest William and Morgan English, a nice, young couple from Brenham, Texas, for engaging in organized criminal activity. The charge carries a penalty of five to 99 years in prison.
The Englishes had attended a brunch sponsored by the Texas Confederation of Clubs and Independents on May 17 at the Twin Peaks restaurant. Multiple, informed sources said Judge Morgan did not appear to be drunk.
Morgan based his ruling on the testimony of a Texas Department of Public Safety Lieutenant named Steven Schwartz who indentified a riding group called “Distorted” as a “support club” for the Bandidos Motorcycle Club. Schwartz called the Bandidos a “criminal street gang.” William “Piddle” English belongs to Distorted which has five other members. Morgan English was wearing a vest that described her as a Distorted Old Lady who was “Property of Piddle.”
Forbidden Flair
As is the custom in much of Texas among motorcycle riders, members of Distorted and women associated with members wear a small tab on the front of their club vests that reads, “I Support The Fat Mexican.” The felonious phrase is a reference to the Bandidos logo: A cartoon of a man with a big belly who is wearing a serape and a very heroic sombrero with a revolver in his right hand and a machete in his left.
Shwartz testified both that he had never heard of the Distorted before that day and that he knew that the Distorted was there that day in a “show of support” for the Bandidos. He also testified that of the seven members of the Distorted only William English, who was convicted of driving while intoxicated, has a criminal past. He also testified that the support tab the club members wear proves the Distorted is “somewhat involved in criminal activity.”
Shwartz also testified that the Confederation of Clubs and Independents is front for the Bandidos and that the Bandidos is a “security threat group.”
“Bandidos historically use support groups to do their dirty work so that the Bandidos don’t look bad,” Schwartz testified under oath.
Back In June
Morgan English testified that she drove a car to the restaurant that day, that there was a gun in the car and that she did, in fact, support the Bandidos. She said she left the gun locked in the car after she parked. Under Texas law, it is legal to have a gun in your car when travelling. Her husband testified that he knew there were “some issues” between the Bandidos and members of the Cossacks Motorcycle Club.
William and Morgan English were briefly famous at the beginning of June after their attorney, Paul Looney, negotiated a bond reduction and the couple was released.
They made us all feel like animals, like they herded us,” Morgan English complained at the time.
Her husband said “This whole thing is a sham. I’m kind of upset that we had to pay to get out of jail when we did nothing wrong.”
You all criminal biker gang enthusiasts are begging to sound a whole lot like Slick Willy, “its just a matter of what the meaning of is, is”.
What don’t you understand about Texas being fed up with scumbag thug motorcycle gangs being a threat to civil society? Whatever comes out of this mess, anyone stupid enough to chum around with criminals deserves what they get.
the Waco legal system is being a lot nicer to them that were the fed up citizens of California back when being a Hell’s angel would get you run over. Where are the HA today?
Just like M13, Crips n Bloods or muslim terrorists, biker gangs want to look and act like criminal thug terrorists, time for Open Season on em all.
This sort of LEO, prosecutorial, and judicial monkey business has a long history in the US. The only reason "faith in the law" is valid is that the alternative is worse. The criminal justice business would have the people believing the system has integrity. It does not have integrity. "Total nonsense under the law" has been status quo for decades. The nonsense is usually practiced on a smaller scale, to "nobodies," and escapes notice.
Just saying, don't blame it on Obama. Jesus Christ could be president, and the actors in the field would behave the same way.
I realize I am wearing out this point; but, if that is indeed the case, then why were they sitting in their vehicles when the first shots were fired?
Affidavits have been submitted that before any shots were fired that Cossacks were seen on the patio moving about and checking their weapons and that before any shots were fired that a large cohort of Bandidos arrived.
What is proactive about sitting in a car as matters begin to escalate?
Compared with sitting in the cop-shop, or donut shop, or being on routine patrol, having a heavy presence on the scene is proactive.
I think the cops are lying that Twin Peaks told them they could not be on the premises, and an out-of-the-car presence would have had a deterrent effect. I believe the cops did NOT want to produce a deterrent effect. I believe the cops wanted a fight to break out. The fight justified their presence.
You continue with that ridiculous smear. Holding the Power to account is a legitimate business of free people. Calling us names does no service to whatever it is you are advocating.
the Waco legal system is being a lot nicer to them....
"Nice" has nothing to do with it. The oaths they all take do not contain the woed "nice."
I disagree that you are "wearing out this point" -- it is an important, glaring, and valid point, and I for one am GLAD that you continue to bring it up. They at least claim that they were sitting in their vehicles. If they weren't, they're lying, which is bad, and if they WERE sitting in their vehicles, that also implies some other kind of lie at work because it makes zero sense.
What I still cannot believe is how many naïve gullible people actually believe Sons of Anarchy templates. I can only surmise that they live in an extreme bubble and have very, very limited experiences of American life, getting most of it from "reality" TV shows.
X-spurt, 150 years ago, you would have been killed in a duel for insulting the honor of so many good people so cavalierly and wrongly. You have as much as called MANY of my relatives, friends, and siblings "criminal gang members" and have done the same to many others. Your ass has a large and well-deserved target on it and it will no doubt be kicked soundly and squarely. The sad part is that you won't understand why -- but others will.
Or are criminal biker gangsters so extremely skilled, wily, and intelligent that they can outsmart Texas policemen at least 66 percent of the time and never get caught?
WHY ELSE, X-spurt, did a full TWO THIRDS of the "criminal biker gang" members arrested at Waco that day lack any record of prior arrest for even misdemeanors, let along convictions of hard crimes?
Since you REFUSE to consider the possibility that the reason they lack criminal records is because they are innocent American biker enthusiasts and nothing more ...
... then BE ACCOUNTABLE and explain how it is that they have managed to get away with such horrible violent crimes in Texas for so long, even when they wear the equivalent of neon signs on their backs announcing their criminal affiliation and intent -- that is, after all, what "gang experts" in law enforcement use as justification for arresting them at Waco in the first place, and quite obviously, you are buying it.
OWN UP, you lousy lying coward, and tell us all here: do you think Texas cops are that inept, that they can't actually catch sign-wearing violent criminal bikers in the act of robbery, kidnapping, assault, etc.,, or do you think sign-wearing violent criminal bikers are that much SMARTER than Texas cops?
Judge Morgan may be high on glue.
That supposes that he is going to follow the law, which, for an examining trial, amounts to correlating allegations with the offense. In this case, the law is irrelevant. All that matters is the outcome, and the outcome MUST be that probable cause exists. If a court found absence of probable cuase, it greases the skids in the deprivation of rights lawsuits.
The judge is absolutely immune from prosecution, so as a practical matter, there is no need for the judge to apply the law. Morgan's function is to protect the state. If he was high on glue, he might loses sight of his role.
These are not the bikers of 1970 either. Hunter S Thompson wrote in his "Hell's Angels" (1966) that the oldest Angel then riding was 36 years old. I know seventy year old retired business men, wealthy by most standards, and many retired military, who are still riding and flying colors.
Didn't you know, Chuckster, that those retired military and retired businessmen "wealthy by most standards" are GANGSTER CRIMINALS? They must be, if they're still riding and flying colors, according to the folks I pinged above.
You are apparently just too dim to perceive hardened criminals when you meet them, but those cops at Waco sure weren't fooled!!! In fact, two thirds of the 177 "gangster crimnals" they managed to net at Waco had been getting away with all their crimes up to that point -- 117 of those violent hardened gangster criminals had never even been arrested on a misdemeanor before, let alone convicted of a crime!!! Thanks HEAVENS for policemen who are so much smarter than you and me -- we've apparently been socializing with these hardened criminals all these years, in my case even related to many by blood, and never even knew what dangerous folks they were!! /s
Safe assumption being that the feral gummint has created so many laws and regulations that the average person “commits three felonies a day”. Sort of like the old Soviet Union. They didn’t need detectives. Three days without sleep and a “citizen” would be more than happy to tell you all the laws they had broken.
You should have known that the judge would rule thusly. The Judge always goes with what the cops want.
Like I posted, I can’t help but wonder if Jr.’s testimony was not coached. He states the first shot fired was into Russell’s chest. I suspect that video and audio would coincide to make it appear that could be the case. The wound itself says that the story doesn’t match.
I suppose you are right. I should probably go down to the Cop Shop and turn myself in. Even though my last interaction with the PD was for an illegal U turn in 1985 (Not counting the various times I sat on a governor's task force, advisory board or charity board with the Chief of Police and other top brass in the department.) After all, I still wear the evidence of my crimes tatooed on my arm, winged skull and all. I must confess that I have actually ridden a bike on the street with non stock mufflers and associated with other individuals who conspired to commit the same heinous crime.
I suppose you are right. I should probably go down to the Cop Shop and turn myself in. Even though my last interaction with the PD was for an illegal U turn in 1985 (Not counting the various times I sat on a governor's task force, advisory board or charity board with the Chief of Police and other top brass in the department.) After all, I still wear the evidence of my crimes tatooed on my arm, winged skull and all. I must confess that I have actually ridden a bike on the street with non stock mufflers and associated with other individuals who conspired to commit the same heinous crime.
Give me a break. This is nothing like the John Doe investigations. That was a politically motivated witch hunt, while this was the police stopping a murderous gang fight in broad daylight.
If you can’t see the difference, I’m afraid you and reality have parted company.
Have you ever heard of racketeering?
“I don’t think most of what you said is in question.”
Oh it certainly is in question by a great many posters on this board who frequent these threads.
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