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To: PROCON
It seems both Cohen and Romney never had complete history taught them in their formal education. There was as much likely more racial related violence in the north before and after the Civil War lasting through the 1960's. There was Segregation in the U.S. Government at least officially through WW2.

Look at history. In the Civil War there was USCT. That stands for United States Colored Troops. The name stopped after the Civil War but the policies in fact did not. WW2 saw segregated units in combat and in units doing construction such as the Trans Alaskan Highway. The two need to visit a National Cemetery established in The Civil War and read the headstones on the graves. Entire sections with USCT under the soldiers name. I'm thinking segregation in the Navy came about sometime in the 1960's and up until then non whites were not allowed many ratings.

The Civil War is one place Smedley Butler's theory on wars applied. Politically it was about states rights. Lincoln himself wanted to send slaves back to Africa upon conclusion of the war. It was also northern industrialist vs southern industrialist and some very rich families fighting for control of even the entire nations business. The industrialized north which had built it's infrastructure on the backs of slave labor were seeing slavery as a liability for them and a threat upcoming southern industries would do likewise building up the south. So they pushed for abolishing slavery. Not out of any moral conscience but rather a business maneuver. Those fights lasted into the early 1900's. Slavery in the USA lasted both in the northern and southern states into the early 1960's. Anyone believing otherwise should understand the concept of the Company Store and corporate owned towns in isolated communities.

The CSA fought an honorable fight and their causes were both as right and also as wrong as the north's cause was. When it was all over and done in the south both former slaves and former owners did not fair well. For survival sharecropping became common. Whites working fields along with and among blacks for several generations. Blacks in the north though free were not paid as equals, got the low end jobs, and was also largely segregated.

Mitt and Cohen obviously weren't in class when that part of American history was taught. Or did they get the new improved re-written by Marxist politically correct version of it which showed up in public and private education after WW2?

52 posted on 06/20/2015 3:34:09 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: cva66snipe

Racism is a rediculous argument on the matter, national division and a war of Americans killing Americans is a much more reasoned and informed argument. Even to this day, the highest American body count in a war was in our own Civil War. I just don’t think current government buildings should carry the symbol of division. Historial Buildings should have what was accurate to the times.


99 posted on 06/20/2015 5:48:12 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: cva66snipe

“I’m thinking segregation in the Navy came about sometime in the 1960’s”

I think you meant to say integration came about and segregation ended. At any rate I entered the Navy straight from high school in 1962 and it was fully integrated at that time. I couldn’t say exactly when segregation ended in the Navy.


107 posted on 06/20/2015 6:14:48 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Racism is racism, regardless of the race of the racist.)
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To: cva66snipe
There was as much likely more racial related violence in the north before and after the Civil War lasting through the 1960's.

Depends on what era you're talking about. Violence during Reconstruction in the South outweighed anything that happened in the North until WWI.

It was also northern industrialist vs southern industrialist and some very rich families fighting for control of even the entire nations business. The industrialized north which had built it's infrastructure on the backs of slave labor were seeing slavery as a liability for them and a threat upcoming southern industries would do likewise building up the south. So they pushed for abolishing slavery. Not out of any moral conscience but rather a business maneuver.

You need to go back to school yourself if you think that the arguments over slavery didn't relate to morality at all. Industrialists weren't the ones driving the debate. A lot of them didn't support either abolition or the war. Ordinary people with opinions played a major role in what was going on, as did preachers, teachers, and journalists.

157 posted on 06/22/2015 10:26:13 AM PDT by x
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