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The New York Times Says Christianity is Declining and I Say 'Amen!'
Charting Course ^ | 5/13/15 | Steve Berman

Posted on 05/13/2015 6:16:01 AM PDT by lifeofgrace

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1 posted on 05/13/2015 6:16:01 AM PDT by lifeofgrace
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To: lifeofgrace

Separating the chaff from the wheat. If they are leaving it then maybe it was just a social club for them in the first place.


2 posted on 05/13/2015 6:17:32 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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Who and where did the people live who they polled, because if they polled in NY city, Boston, Chicago then yes they would get the results ?

From where I am there are just as many young kids gong to church as twenty years ago.


3 posted on 05/13/2015 6:19:06 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: lifeofgrace

In any community there are exactly as many of the Christian elect as God has decreed.


4 posted on 05/13/2015 6:19:39 AM PDT by circlecity
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From where I am there are just as many young kids gong to church as twenty years ago.

Then where you live is extremely rare indeed. But more to the point of the article, the mainline denominations is where the "bleeding" is occurring. And for the reasons the author cited IMO.

5 posted on 05/13/2015 6:22:21 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: lifeofgrace

I imagine there are celebrations at the Times and in the White House.


6 posted on 05/13/2015 6:24:34 AM PDT by armydawg505
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To: lifeofgrace
Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

-- John Adams

7 posted on 05/13/2015 6:27:06 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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A further expansion of that involves the concept of a self-governing people, fearing God because they understand their ultimate accountability to Him.

The Constitution is inadequate for the governance of a people without the fear of God.


8 posted on 05/13/2015 6:29:06 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: lifeofgrace

these leftist are anti-christian, not anti-religion. When muslim numbers are increasing they cry “Allah Akbar”


9 posted on 05/13/2015 6:29:46 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: lifeofgrace

Very interesting article and perspective. Good post!


10 posted on 05/13/2015 6:30:40 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: lifeofgrace

I agree with the writer’s opinion. But are the people who remain in the church real Christians, or are the committed Christians in the church being replaced with pew warmers?


11 posted on 05/13/2015 6:32:43 AM PDT by MNDude
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Not all Lutherans are bad. Same for Methodists, though the UMC is slouching toward Gomorrah.

Some PCUSA churches, IIRC, are walking away from the denomination. The pro-sodomy move of the official body was the straw that broke the camel’s back.

We must be careful to differentiate the “visible” church—full of wheat and weeds—from the “invisible” church. The “invisible” church is all wheat, and is probably found in every denomination and so-called Christian or “Christian influenced” religion in the world.


12 posted on 05/13/2015 6:33:59 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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Amen. Where do people go to hear about the value morality and virtue other than church?
13 posted on 05/13/2015 6:35:34 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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>>Separating the chaff from the wheat. If they are leaving it then maybe it was just a social club for them in the first place.

Like gun ownership. In 1985 the neighboring state of Massachusetts had several million gun owners, most of whom never gave it a thought. Thirty years later, after Libs cynically passed the worst gun laws in the country, MA has several hundred thousand gun owners who fiercely and single-mindedly protect gun ownership. I prefer the latter.

14 posted on 05/13/2015 6:36:56 AM PDT by pabianice (LINE)
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To: lifeofgrace

Poor church leadership hasn’t helped. Most priests come across as frustrated, failed stand up comedians during the homily.

I don’t blame lots of folks for turning away from such uninspired leadership.


15 posted on 05/13/2015 6:38:11 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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Indeed!

If there is a reduction in the number who are counted as Christians, that is a reduction in the visible church only. Satan and his minions combined with every anti-Christ throughout history have never snatched even one of His elect. ALL given by the Father to the Son SHALL come to the Son and be raised up on the last day.

“All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. And this is the Father’s will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.”
—John 6:37-39)


16 posted on 05/13/2015 6:43:07 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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After reading the internals of that survey, I was less disheartened than I was at the outset. The numbers of evangelicals are actually growing in the U.S. Most of the decline in numbers are centered on liberal and “mainline” Christians.

What we’re actually seeing is more of a clarification than an actual decline in the numbers of Christians in the U.S.


17 posted on 05/13/2015 6:48:25 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Hillary is nothing more than a white, wrinkled form of Obama in pants.)
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> Who and where did the people live who they polled, because if they polled in NY city, Boston, Chicago then yes they would get the results ?

I’ll lay bets its a fake poll or the facts skewed; in other words, propaganda.


18 posted on 05/13/2015 6:49:43 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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Church=poor mans country club

Doesn’t make me happy to type that.


19 posted on 05/13/2015 6:54:04 AM PDT by Romans Nine
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My thoughts too and that is why pollsters should let it be known where they poll.

I could get any results I wanted based on where I poll and who I ask.


20 posted on 05/13/2015 6:55:41 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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