Posted on 04/17/2015 10:33:50 AM PDT by IChing
The video of South Carolina police officer Michael Slager taking steady aim and repeatedly shooting the fleeing Walter Scott in the back is rather shocking and disturbing. It shows the horrible consequence of Slager completely following through on his decision to resort to deadly force when, after a foot chase and fierce physical fight, Scott looked to be turning the officers own taser against him.
Some who have analyzed the incident and video closely know that the details are somewhat different than the authorities and media would have people know.
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/04/12/game-changer-or-paradigm-shift-walter-scott-shooting-enhanced-video-shows-officer-slager-with-taser-darts/comment-page-1/
The moment of decision looks to have happened so fast. Lightning fast. With taser wires visibly somehow attached to both men, at the moment of struggle over the taser when Slager is justified in going to his gun, the taser flies from between them, landing behind the officer as Scott suddenly whirls and runs away from the officer. But Slagers resolute drawing and repeatedly firing into Scotts back after that point is uninterrupted.
A clear-cut case of murder, according to many.
However, even in failing to halt his deadly volley of shots when the situation immediately changed (arguably from one of justified deadly force to something else), Slager is not guilty of murder, and an honest jury will not convict him of it.
Why do I say this? Arguments have raged in online forums non-stop, with speculation about all kinds of contingencies, about the technical capacities of tasers, and especially about Slagers state of mind (the heart of the matter, really) at the moment he fired each individual shot.
The best assessment of what really happened, in my opinion, is this post at FreeRepublic.com.
It has been discussed in scientific papers that the human mind under duress is generally unable to stop certain actions quickly once they have commenced.
"This has been applied to the law enforcement setting where a police officer, after being in physical combat, is justified in using deadly force but then the circumstances change in front of him. An officer may neurologically be unable to stop firing until either the suspect is down or several seconds elapse.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3278316/posts?page=495#495
What is seen in the video is, at most, voluntary manslaughter. I have argued this from the beginning, and many indignant, irrational readers act as if Im declaring Slager entirely innocent of anything. Such people act as if manslaughter isnt even a crime, often deemed a very serious one carrying heavy punishment sometimes equal to sentences for murder.
There was a prolonged foot chase and a physical fight over a distance of several hundred yards, with both men on the ground at one point, Scott on top of Slager (that image is glimpsed in an early frame of shaky video, just prior to the two men coming into view on their feet).
It can be legitimately argued that Slager had reason to fear for his own life at the moment Scott appeared to be gaining control of the taser. Thats because of the threat plausibly existing in Slagers mind (whether seen after the fact as well-founded or not), given the lightning-fast chaos and intensity of the situation that Scott could use it to incapacitate him, take his pistol, and do whatever to him.
The Supreme Courts ruling in Graham v. Connor says that juries must try police-involved cases from the perspective of an objectively reasonable officer on the scene at the time, not merely that of a reasonable non-police person later on, and they must carefully consider the conditions that police operate under:
The reasonableness of a particular use of force must be judged from the perspective of a reasonable officer on the scene, rather than with the 20/20 vision of hindsight. The calculus of reasonableness must embody allowance for the fact that police officers are often forced to make split-second judgmentsin circumstances that are tense, uncertain and rapidly evolvingabout the amount of force that is necessary in a particular situation. The test of reasonableness is not capable of precise definition or mechanical application.
Its doubtful Slager ever claimed Scott actually succeeded in tasing him, or in lodging prongs into his outer clothing (despite some saying taser prongs appear to be attached to Slagers chest and leg), but the necessary factors for justifying use of deadly force against Scott were arguably present at the moment the two standing men come into the video frame except that Scott suddenly whirls and takes off.
Some argue that Slager may have believed Scott still had the taser. Some argue that Tennessee v. Garner applies in Slagers favor, while others say it applies against him.
The state has their calculated and political reasons for overcharging by going for murder, but if they really want the accused to be sentenced to prison, theyd better give jurors the chance to go for manslaughter and/or even lesser charges otherwise Slager walks, and all hell breaks loose.
Sure, hell will still break loose if the verdict is less than murder, but the riots and mayhem wont be anywhere near as bad as if the state goes with only the excessive charge of murder, and Slager beats the rap entirely.
In a public statement, Solicitor Scarlett Wilson said the indictment against Slager will be presented to the Charleston Grand Jury in May at the earliest.
http://www.foxcarolina.com/story/28792149/prosecutor-death-penalty-does-not-apply-in-michael-slager-case
Is there a chance that the Grand Jury doesnt even affirm probable cause, if murder is the only charge presented to them? Imagine the insane racial violence and entire cities destroyed if that were to happen! Given that grand jurors voting for a true bill dont have to be unanimous (simple majority instead), and that a no-bill happens only about 1 out of every 10 times, Id say thats unlikely.
More analysis of the struggle over the taser, with a new, zoomed-in clip of that portion of the video, is here.
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/04/14/new-zoom-video-the-walter-scott-officer-slager-taser-struggle/
In this stabilized and audio-enhanced video of the incident, Scott can be seen on top of Slager in the early seconds:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKNsK9ySAQQ
Why have the authorities and major media distorted and hidden certain things in this case? Simple. Upon public release of the bystanders cell phone video, they knew full well that massive rioting was about to explode unless they immediately threw Slager to the wolves and charged him with to the hilt, with murder, while (whether honestly or not) publicly denouncing everything about his actions and statements.
Did Slager lie about any part of the incident after it happened? Im not sure. The authorities have made claims about Slagers personal account of what happened being allegedly inconsistent, but they have not released it so how are we to know?
What I am sure of is that there is reasonable doubt as to the charge of murder. I am utterly certain of it.
Its going to be a dangerous summer.
“If there was a struggle beforehand, it should be manslaughter.”
If he shot him during the struggle I wouldn’t have an issue. He shot the guy in the back as he was running away. Right before he planted evidence.
He didn’t even hesitate before running back to get the taser.
Want to bet on the outcome? I was 100% accurate in my predictions about the Zimmerman and Wilson cases, btw.
Bear in mind that criminal trials involve due diligence and deliberative analysis of the type found here, not knee-jerk reactions to sensational video clips, without careful scrutiny based on the law.
Then you didn’t comprehend it, if you think it’s only about murder charges.
“I dont think Slager planned to kill Scott.”
What do you imagine he thought would happen if he shot him 8 times in the back?
ahh once again you start with that.
yeah all I need to understand is that you’ll excuse any and every use of deadly force by police
So was that the taser, or Scotts hat? If it was the taser, well, that kind of seals it.
You understand what premeditation means, right?
Sorry...your theory would have some credibility...IF Slager had not tampered with evidence and planted the taser next to Scott after the fact.
That one little act of Slager’s shows his state of mind....he murdered Scott, he knew he murdered Scott, and he attempted to stage the crime scene to make the shooting appear justified.
The video I saw was a taser. He threw he right after Scott started running to free up his hands for his gun. Then he went back to the same spot and picked up a taser. Then he threw that taser right next to Scotts body.
Regardless of whether it was a taser or a hat, what rational explanation could there be for moving evidence? A couple of posters on FR have suggested it was to secure the evidence. A laughable excuse under these circumstances.
You think that can be proved? Have you not encountered the arguments as to other reasons why he moved it, then holstered it?
You want to condemn a man on a charge for which there’s reasonable doubt. How nice.
What reasonable person would try to justify placing a potentially dangerous weapon next to a suspect? I mean the taser is the whole premise for your justification of the shooting. Why take it and place it next to Scott?
A reasonable person would not buy your fiction.
If it was the hat, maybe it was a knee jerk thing due to shock. It would not materially change the facts. If it was the taser, it is hard to excuse that.
Sorry....the evidence speaks for itself.
Slager staged evidence and manipulated the crime scene for what other reason than to clear himself?
So the cop isn’t trained on how to secure a crime scene? His first reaction is to run back and get something to throw next to the man he just shot?
I wouldn’t buy that.
The key message here is to be able to run fast.
BTW...I would argue that Slager’s staging of the crime scene is evidence that he did in fact deliberately murder Scott.
Exactly. And note that he didn't have to go looking around to find the Taser - he knew exactly where it was.
I don’t buy that you’ve not read arguments as to other reasons he may have had for moving it. Tell me, in your limitless omniscience, why he almost immediately holstered it?
I don’t buy that you’ve not read arguments as to other reasons he may have had for moving it. Tell me, in your limitless omniscience, why he almost immediately holstered it?
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