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Game Changer OR Paradigm Shift ?--Walter Scott Shooting: Enhanced Video Shows Officer Slager With...
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | 4/12/15 | sundance

Posted on 04/12/2015 3:58:09 AM PDT by IChing

On the first day we saw the North Charleston, South Carolina, shooting video of Walter Scott by Officer Michael Slager we were as shocked as everyone. However, as research now indicates there is much more to the story.

What we cover here in the latest update might just change the entire way the story continues…

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: copbashersonfr; copbashingonfr; donutwatch; michaelslager; northcharleston; rushtojudgment; southcarolina; tasers; walterscott; walterscottshooting
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To: Karl Spooner
According to Santana, the officer is on top of him when he came upon the scene. At a certain point in time you have to assume he was able enough to run. I guess this means he would be on top at this point to enable that. No?

Well I suppose we can "assume" and "guess" all day long. If that's how you convict people in your mind I will stay out of your courtroom.

481 posted on 04/12/2015 5:16:45 PM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: FreeReign

It is a legal problem. Can somebody die from one gun shot? Yes. So to use your gun means you have to have a reason for deadly force. Shooting to wound only adds risk that the deadly threat posed by the subject will continue longer. That means center of mass, or running multiple shots up the body, if in close, starting at the hips. Maybe shots to the face if you suspect he is wearing armor.


482 posted on 04/12/2015 5:18:10 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: driftdiver

No, you don’t. Your position is that it doesn’t matter what Slager believed, however Slager’s state of mind and perception of events is everything in terms of the charges he faces, genius. You plainly do not know diddly squat.


483 posted on 04/12/2015 5:20:38 PM PDT by IChing
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To: IChing

SLED did the investigation genius.


A SLED report released on Thursday states responding agents were concerned by what they found at the scene of the April 4 shooting of 50-year-old Walter Scott by former North Charleston Police officer Michael Slager.

“Our agents and crime scene technicians arrived shortly after the incident took place,” said SLED Chief Mark Keel.”There were inconsistencies including what appeared to be multiple gunshot wounds in Mr. Scott’s back. We believed early on that there was something not right about what happened in that encounter. The cell phone video shot by a bystander confirmed our initial suspicions.”

Keel said SLED agents are trained to be observant and question what they are told and initially find at a crime scene.

“It is our nature throughout the investigative process to analyze all of the evidence in this and any other case to ensure a fair and impartial investigation,” Keel said.”That includes a detailed examination of the videos, laboratory analysis of the forensic evidence and interviews with those involved. While what we have seen and learned may provide some answers, it raises more questions and issues to investigate. We encourage anyone with information about this incident to immediately contact us and cooperate in our investigation.”

Keel said he anticipates more information will be provided to SLED investigators by the man who videoed the incident.

“I appreciate that Feidin Santana was worried about his safety and whether he could trust the police after what he saw and captured on his cell phone. I’m grateful he decided not to erase the video. We are eager to discuss the incident with him,”Keel said.”We have interviewed Michael Slager, the other officers and others who may have some knowledge of the this incident,” Keel said.”We will pursue this case until we are confident we have developed as much factual information and evidence as possible to give to prosecutors. We have worked throughout this case with Solicitor Wilson and will continued to do so until the matter is resolved.”

Slager was arrested and charged by SLED with murder following an interview Monday afternoon at his then-attorney’s office. Slager remains in the Charleston County Detention Center.

http://www.live5news.com/story/28766361/sled-video-confirmed-investigators-early-suspicions-of-walter-scotts-death


484 posted on 04/12/2015 5:20:57 PM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: PUGACHEV

You could be right. But given the recent cases of the media convicting a person before all the evidence was in, I’d wait for more.


485 posted on 04/12/2015 5:22:29 PM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: bobby.223

Years ago, yes, but not anymore. Of course, policy is mindless, just like “the law is an ass.” Both trump common sense quite often.


486 posted on 04/12/2015 5:23:12 PM PDT by IChing
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To: 101stAirborneVet

There is only the eyewitness report. Don’t mix my words with his if your intention is to be accurate.


487 posted on 04/12/2015 5:23:38 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: familyop

Wrong. Incapacitating a cop allows access to his gun.


488 posted on 04/12/2015 5:24:45 PM PDT by IChing
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To: IChing
Wrong. Incapacitating a cop allows access to his gun.

Desperate, that's what it is. Are you afraid that they might open up more investigations from the past on account of this?

489 posted on 04/12/2015 5:31:17 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Karl Spooner
There is only the eyewitness report. Don’t mix my words with his if your intention is to be accurate.

You said:

"At a certain point in time you have to assume he was able enough to run. I guess this means he would be on top at this point to enable that. No?"

I believe the video shows the officer prone. It shows the suspect not prone.

I believe people are rushing to judgment and regurgitating what they hear their TV telling them.

I am a retired police officer.

490 posted on 04/12/2015 5:33:58 PM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: USNBandit

My nephew said he was taught to “shoot and assess”. In the case of an armed suspect, the threat justifies deadly force and wounding to take down is not an option. I think the manner of an unarmed takedown policy varies from one agency to another. It seems to me this ought to be an area that is applied uniformly to avoid liability suits.

In the case of Mr. Scott, the family has already filed a lawsuit. If justice were served, his kids would be awarded damages in the amount Mr. Scott would have reasonably been expected to provide had he lived. Looks like that would have been “nada” based on his history.


491 posted on 04/12/2015 5:35:00 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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This might be a case where the first one or two shots were justified because Scott had possession of the taser and the remaining shots weren't justified.
492 posted on 04/12/2015 5:35:23 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: 101stAirborneVet

They does not conflict with anything I said. You just attempted to change what I said.


493 posted on 04/12/2015 5:37:07 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: 101stAirborneVet

Thank you for posting that!


494 posted on 04/12/2015 5:39:24 PM PDT by IChing
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To: FreeReign

It has been discussed in scientific papers that the human mind under duress is generally unable to stop certain actions quickly once they have commenced.

This has been applied to the law enforcement setting where a police officer, after being in physical combat, is justified in using deadly force but then the circumstances change in front of him. An officer may neurologically be unable to stop firing until either the suspect is down or several seconds elapse.


495 posted on 04/12/2015 5:39:57 PM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: Karl Spooner

No I didn’t. I literally quoted you.


496 posted on 04/12/2015 5:40:54 PM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: DoodleDawg

Just curious, in your opinion if a subject fights you and succeeds in getting your taser from you, should you deem him a threat in the future as he is fleeing?


497 posted on 04/12/2015 5:44:46 PM PDT by IChing
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To: IChing; DoodleDawg

And let’s just add to that - the guy has your Taser and at least one prong is embedded in you.


498 posted on 04/12/2015 5:46:13 PM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: 101stAirborneVet

Have you ever seen a bad police shoot?


499 posted on 04/12/2015 5:47:27 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: 101stAirborneVet
It has been discussed in scientific papers that the human mind under duress is generally unable to stop certain actions quickly once they have commenced. This has been applied to the law enforcement setting where a police officer, after being in physical combat, is justified in using deadly force but then the circumstances change in front of him. An officer may neurologically be unable to stop firing until either the suspect is down or several seconds elapse.

I certainly would consider that as a possibility, which is why one should never attack a cop or any armed person. The person defending themselves may not stop...until it's too late.

500 posted on 04/12/2015 5:49:31 PM PDT by FreeReign
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