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Open request to Senator Cruz

Posted on 01/22/2015 2:41:41 PM PST by big bad easter bunny

The Constitution requires that for you to be eligible to be president, both of your parents must be naturally born citizens. You do not meet that qualification, if I am wrong please straiten me out. If you get the nomination I promise you the democrats will do what the republicans are too scared to do.

Dear Ted I think you are awesome but we all need to know the answer to this.


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: birthers; certifigate; cruz; eligibility; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; tedcruz
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To: SoConPubbie

Why did you post that to me? I don’t disagree with you. I was just asking how Obama’s birth and his mother all figured into it....how it’s different or similar to Cruz.


61 posted on 01/22/2015 3:53:55 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (Obama voters are my enemy. And so are republican voters.)
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To: big bad easter bunny

“A question can not be a question and a premise at the same time, good try. Not really.”

How is:

“The Constitution requires that for you to be eligible to be president, both of your parents must be naturally born citizens.”

A question?

It would be pretty easy to insult your intelligence.


62 posted on 01/22/2015 3:54:46 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: John Valentine
Also, can you cite any contemporaneous reference from the late 18th century expounding that notion that natural born citizenship requires only one co-citizen parent? And nothing from English Çommon Law, please, we are speaking here of the nascent United States.

For that I would have to dig through the Anti-birther arguments. Some of their documentation includes some references, I believe, a SCOTUS ruling in the early 1800's, before 1810 that included that statement.
63 posted on 01/22/2015 3:56:00 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

“All of your rebuttal was just your opinion.”

False. Just because I gave my opinion does not mean that is all I gave. Regardless of my opinion the final authority is what the term “Natural Born” meant when the constitution was written. As I stated. No law written since that falls short of a constitutional amendment has any relevant authority.


64 posted on 01/22/2015 3:57:03 PM PST by Revel
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To: big bad easter bunny

I agree that this needs to be addressed and on the surface he no more qualifies that I and others claimed of Obama.


65 posted on 01/22/2015 4:01:52 PM PST by Reno89519 (For every illegal or H1B with a job, there's an American without one. Muslim = Nazi = Evil)
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To: ForAmerica

Of course not, I have argued for years that it very well be how we unravel all he has done including 2 justices but your question has zero to do with my request.


66 posted on 01/22/2015 4:02:24 PM PST by big bad easter bunny
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Ostrich!


67 posted on 01/22/2015 4:03:59 PM PST by big bad easter bunny
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To: SoConPubbie

Ok I will admit that I must have confused Cruz with Walker on the immigration issue. My apologies.


68 posted on 01/22/2015 4:07:48 PM PST by Revel
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To: ifinnegan

What is the title to my post? a question?


69 posted on 01/22/2015 4:08:01 PM PST by big bad easter bunny
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To: SoConPubbie

Here is the info on Cruz and immigration that I saw the other day. It is actually about worker visas being increased by a ridiculous amount.

Sen. Cruz Presents Measure to Strengthen, Improve Legal Immigration

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3248919/posts


70 posted on 01/22/2015 4:22:46 PM PST by Revel
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To: Revel; SoConPubbie
unlimited legal immigration

Cruz does not believe in 'unlimited' legal immigration. For one thing, that doesn't make sense. Legal immigration has had targets annually for decades. People still have to apply, go through the process, get approved. They don't just walk up, introduce themselves, and get in as a legal immigrant with proper paperwork.

Cruz does believe in legal immigration. But, for that matter, so do I. I think there should be less of it now than there was 20 years ago, and I think there might be more of it 20 years from now.

You cannot find a quote in which Cruz says anything similar to "I believe in unlimited legal immigration."

71 posted on 01/22/2015 4:24:14 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: VerySadAmerican

Because Maobama presented himself as a foreign exchange student in college!


72 posted on 01/22/2015 4:26:23 PM PST by alstewartfan (I would go forsooth to the dragon's tooth If thus a chance were gained! Al Stewart)
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To: xzins

See post 68.


73 posted on 01/22/2015 4:32:02 PM PST by Revel
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To: alstewartfan
Because Maobama presented himself as a foreign exchange student in college!

I believe that it is possible, even probable that he did just that, I have yet to see anyone uncover any evidence of it. In my opinion that has less to do with the existence or non-existence of such evidence and more to do with the utter lack of interest on the part of investigative journalists to break through the iron wall placed around all of Obama's records.

74 posted on 01/22/2015 4:36:21 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: Revel

If you will notice, the link that you give was from May of 2013. It was not even a recent article that was posted.

In May of 2013 Cruz had been in the Senate all of 5 months.

I disagree with increasing H1b visas, and I think that currently legal immigration should be cut to the bone, but I’d be in line with what Senator Jeff Sessions is saying. Once he got his feet on the ground, Cruz pretty much supported Sessions in about everything.

I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that he now supports Sessions instead of what he thought he knew as a very junior senator.


75 posted on 01/22/2015 4:36:27 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: big bad easter bunny
I have every right to have my understanding of the Constitution.

You have every right to your own understanding. You don't have a right to your own facts. Please identify what defines natural-born citizen the way you do.

76 posted on 01/22/2015 4:38:25 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Revel
Obviously the meaning of the term “Natural Born” was as clear to the people of the time as the term “Thou shout not kill”.

Obviously not, if the posts on this thread are any indication.

For me it would be a citizen born in the US to two US parents. With the only exclusion being any US citizen who fought in the revolutionary war.

With all due respect your opinion isn't any more binding than mine is. The fact is that the Constitution mentions only two kinds of citizenship; natural-born or naturalized. If you're not one then you're the other. And Cruz wasn't naturalized.

77 posted on 01/22/2015 4:41:29 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: VerySadAmerican

Obama was not eligible because at the time, a single parent who was over the age of 23 and had spent the last 5 years living in the United States was able to convey citizenship...she was not old enough when Obama was born... hence he wasn’t eligible.


78 posted on 01/22/2015 4:43:42 PM PST by willyd (I for one welcome our NSA overlords)
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To: big bad easter bunny

Ted Cruz isn’t reading your question and doesn’t care what you think about it. Have fun waiting around for an answer from him ... LOL ...


79 posted on 01/22/2015 4:50:35 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: big bad easter bunny

No, it doesn’t. It says that the President must be a Natural Born Citizen.

The Constitution fails to *define* exactly what a NBC is, though. Some say that both parents must be citizens and the person must be born on US soil. Others say that the person must just be a citizen. (If you remember, there were some saying that John McCain wasn’t qualified because he was born in Panama.)

There’s a lot of legal *opinion* floating around, but the answer is not found in the Constitution itself.

As the definition of a NBC has never been clear, I’m fine with using ‘US Citizen’.

The whole Birther issue is centered around the fact that, had Obama not been born on US soil, then he wouldn’t be a citizen *at* *all*. (His father was Kenyan and his mother was too young to convey citizenship to her son on foreign soil.)


80 posted on 01/22/2015 5:21:07 PM PST by Marie
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