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Gruber's Gruesome but Right...
Mononymous1/Wordpress ^ | 11/14/2014 | Mononymous1

Posted on 11/14/2014 8:10:07 AM PST by mononymous

Prof. Gruber’s admission that passage of Obamacare depended on the “stupidity” of the American public should come as no surprise to anyone; the man should be applauded for his candor.

Examining the answers to the following questions would suggest that he was and is absolutely right. It is the dependency on the existence of these people that have kept the Democrat party in power; it is their base, it is to whom they appeal and the rest of us, while living in this country, simply pay the price for their voting habits .

So:


(1) how did “hope and change” work
(2) how did President Obama, after promising to “transform” and “redistribute,” win in 2008
(3) in spite of his government’s record, how did he win a second term in 2012
(4) why did the “war on women” work; how did “binders full of women” get to be more important than Benghazi in 2012
(5) what else would explain the herd mentality of entire groups of people (journalists, minorities, etc.) that drives them to vote for Democrat candidates, repeatedly and with the same outcomes
(6) related to item 5, what else but the belief that there exists mass stupidity among her largely black audience would drive Michelle Obama to tell them in the lead up to the last election, “And that’s my message to voters, this isn’t about Barack, it’s not about person on that ballot– its about you. And for most of the people we are talking to, a Democratic ticket is the clear ticket that we should be voting on, regardless of who said what or did this– that shouldn’t even come into the equation.” In other words, blindly do what I say.
(7) what else would explain the rise to Speakership of Nancy Pelosi
(8) how did Michael Moore and those of his ilk become rich
(9) what possible reason is there for the existence of TMZ, Access Hollywood, Entertainment Tonight and assorted gossip magazines, e.g., “People,” etc.
(10) related to item (9) what else drives the obsession with celebrities, including sports figures and yes, in general, sports. Relatedly, why do grown men wear “Jeter” or “Manning” or whomever else apparel?
(11) what audience is there for the mindless and utter crap that is broadcasted on daytime television
(12) why do advertisements for products with the words “actor portrayal” clearly indicated work
(13) what else drives young women in NYC to wear jeans/pants of a particular shade of blue or for that matter, what makes any person a fashion, trend or any kind of follower
(14) days before the 2014 elections, why did a video of a woman being “catcalled” become viral and receive coverage over a broad spectrum of the media
(15) what else would enable the rackets of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton
(16) why is it that the greatest country in the world cannot have elections without fraud, glitches and voter IDs when we demand the same across the globe with Jimmy Carter as observer
(17) why is Hillary Clinton qualified to be POTUS? That’s right, we have lowered the bar and the “glass ceiling” with it but the fact that she will now be touted as the most “experienced” candidate – probably in the history of the republic, no less – by the very same people who gave us a president with absolutely no experience at running anything, is yet another sign of the level of stupidity Democrats can count on.
(18) why else would people cede their power for decades to the government and the media
(19) what has enabled the states to cede their power the federal government
(20) why does the global warming/climate change hoax continue to perpetuate? How many Prof. Gruber’s are involved?
(21) why is President Obama able to distance himself from all the scandals that have plagued his administration
(22) on what foundation was the Occupy Wall Street operation built
(23) Why do anti-war protesters become latent during Democrat presidencies
(24) Why are there people who still believe that the federal government can do anything efficiently or effectively except through coercion?


This list can go on but we have a general sense of what’s going on here. The final question, however, is this:


(25) why does it seem that folks are more outraged about Prof. Gruber’s confessions than they were about “If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor,” “If you like your plan, you can keep your plan” and all the other failed promises of the abominable law? In the light of the professor’s revelations, the most relevant question to ask is, “what did the President know and when did he know it?” The evidence suggests that the President was fully aware and an active participant in the fraud being perpetuated on the American people; this is where the real outrage should be directed. But, what is anyone going to do about it?


Which is a good segue to Executive Amnesty or President Obama’s ultimate “FU” and revenge against the American people and particularly, those who dared to vote against his policies and party recently. It is not clear that defunding the operational aspect of it will work because USCIS could simply pass on the cost to mint new documents to the amnesty beneficiaries – which is what they normally do, anyway. The Courts might have a say about the legality of the EO but perhaps a more effective way to deal with the matter is for the Republican party’s leaders and those looking at running for nomination to be president to step forward right after the EO is issued and say some or all of the following: (1) with a potential Republican president the EO will be voided on Jan 20th, 2017 (2) those who benefit from the amnesty will NEVER be put on a path to citizenship – per existing law and (3) by registering for the amnesty’s benefits, you are telling the government who you are, where you live, etc., and this may make deportation later easier. The impact of these comments may depress interest in the offered “amnesty” which should make it easier to undo later on.


TOPICS: Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: blogpimp; california; culture; democrats; gruber; jonathangruber; nancypelosi; obama; obamacare; stupidity
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Not defending the man but he is right, I think.
1 posted on 11/14/2014 8:10:07 AM PST by mononymous
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To: mononymous

We knew people were stupid, the 2008 and 2012 elections proved that.


2 posted on 11/14/2014 8:10:38 AM PST by dfwgator (The "Fire Muschamp" tagline is back!)
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To: mononymous

At least he’s honest!


3 posted on 11/14/2014 8:15:32 AM PST by gr8eman (Bill Carson...meet Arch Stanton!)
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To: mononymous
Yo did he just call us stoopid? Oh no he deh-int oh no he deh-ent...


4 posted on 11/14/2014 8:16:09 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Not all Muslims are terrorists but all Muslims are potential terrorists.)
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To: mononymous

So, today is Friday, News Dump Day — what do you think tonight’s news will be — Ferguson or Amnesty?


5 posted on 11/14/2014 8:16:19 AM PST by bunster
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To: mononymous

I’ve been talking about the ignorant, pig-dog, sub-human filth American voter on this forum for years. The Kenyan campaigned TWICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! on his healthcare law, and both times the people were opposed but voted for him anyway. The people are filth and deserve ALL of the suffering coming their way.


6 posted on 11/14/2014 8:17:28 AM PST by Doctor 2Brains
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To: mononymous

No doubt goober was right that’s a fact.

Again Mike Tyson could whip Herve Villechaize(rip) that’s a fact.

Exploiting it for personal gratification is what makes the difference.


7 posted on 11/14/2014 8:18:16 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: mononymous

You’re saying that the “American voter” is too “stupid” to have voted for Obamacare? because that’s what Gruber said.

What does the recent election tell us about the “stupidity of the American voter”? The irony of the DOJ investigating election fraud versus November 4’s result says what?


8 posted on 11/14/2014 8:18:53 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: All
Capitol switchboard...1-866-220-0044.
Call or write your legislator ASAP.

MESSAGE: tell Congress that your midterm vote was specific---a demand that they fight tooth and nail---using both tooth and nail----to demolish the Obama/Reid amnesty plan to force American taxpayers to subsidize the expansion of the Democrat party w/ foreign voters.

AMERICANS HAVE BEEN VERY PATIENT: Americans demand the Republican leadership tell Obama: "If the president unilaterally moves to augment the power of the Executive Branch in an unprecedented and unconstitutional manner via E/O'ing amnesty, then the Legislative Branch will need to increase its powers in order to maintain the balance of powers called for in the US Constitution.

The Senate can do this in an unprecedented but completely constitutional manner, by providing that the filibuster rule is suspended completely until such time as the president withdraws his executive aggrandizement.

RATIONALE--Obama's temporary amnesty E/O requires temporary suspension of the rule. That should also include Congress passing laws without the president signing the bill.

If it is okay for the president to overreach, then it is okay for Congress to overreach. Obama forgets that the Congress---and Americans---can also say, “We have been patient.”

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THIS NEEDS TO GO VIRAL----STOP OBAMA IN HIS TRACKS :

(1) Fund every penny that is budgeted now.....except defund all DHS, ICE, HHS and USCIS' rubber-stamp activities. Defund anything and everything that directly and indirectly deals with amnesty: work permits, green cards for illegals, gravy train subsidies, re-situating unaccompanied minors w/ families. Then let Obama defend his amnesty E/O or take the blame for the entire shutdown himself.

(2) As a further warning----no votes on ANY Obama nominees until Jan 20, 2017. No judges, No Attorney General, no sub-cabinet secretaries. NOTHING----thanks to the SCOTUS ruling, Obama could not recess-appoint ANYONE, if the House declares the Congress is always in session.

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Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL), has set up an active war room dedicated to undermining Obama's plans on immigration, and is next in line to chair the Budget Committee. From that perch, he would have the power to set spending parameters that undermine the president's moves.

CONTACT
Jeff Sessions
335 RUSSELL SENATE OFFICE BUILDING
WASHINGTON DC 20510

Phone: (202) 224-4124

EMAIL PAGE AT SESSIONS' OFFICIAL WEB SITE
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9 posted on 11/14/2014 8:18:59 AM PST by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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To: bunster

I think it will be AGW and the billions just announced. Anything to avoid Gruber or the Wilson decision.

Maybe even something on projected winter scenarios or Iraq.


10 posted on 11/14/2014 8:19:22 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: mononymous
The Democrats genius is assuming and treating their voting blocks are like idiots while boosting the voters self esteem, making those same voters feel like geniuses in receipt of special knowledge and moral superiority.

Gruber exposes the attitude Democrat and most Republican office holders view their constituents and how they scam the American people to stay in power.

11 posted on 11/14/2014 8:20:21 AM PST by rdcbn
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Oh no he didn't.

12 posted on 11/14/2014 8:20:53 AM PST by Slyfox (To put on the mind of George Washington read ALL of Deuteronomy 28, then read his Farewell Address)
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To: mononymous

He depended on the stupidity of liberals and was 100% correct. The rest of us knew Obamacare would be a disaster and have said so from day one.


13 posted on 11/14/2014 8:21:25 AM PST by cripplecreek (You can't half ass conservatism.)
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To: mononymous

Not so much stupid as trusting and gullible- they believed what their president and leaders told them.


14 posted on 11/14/2014 8:25:27 AM PST by Kenny500c
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To: mononymous

They perpetrated a huge “FRAUD” against the American public. I tried reading a lot of that 2700 page bill and got very confused on parts and distrustful about the whole thing. Not knowing the ins and outs of that piece of trash legislature doesn’t make me stupid...it makes the government officials who voted that POS into law co-conspirators in lying to and deceiving/misleading the public and perpetrating fraud. They should all be in jail.


15 posted on 11/14/2014 8:28:01 AM PST by ThomasMore (Islam is the Whore of Babylon!)
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To: Doctor 2Brains

That’s fine but a lot of us have to suffer with them.

Me no like, kemosabe.


16 posted on 11/14/2014 8:29:23 AM PST by Adder (No, Mr. Franklin, we could NOT keep it.)
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‘President Crafted Obamacare Deception With Gruber At White House Meeting’

http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/14/president-crafted-obamacare-deception-with-gruber-at-white-house-meeting/


17 posted on 11/14/2014 8:34:04 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (‘You can avoid reality, but you can’t avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.’)
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To: mononymous

18 posted on 11/14/2014 8:44:20 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: combat_boots

Yes, we have many, many choices don’t we.


19 posted on 11/14/2014 8:50:41 AM PST by bunster
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To: mononymous

You think people are so stupid they need government to take care of them?

Maybe we need to abolish the public schools that made the people this stupid?


20 posted on 11/14/2014 8:55:27 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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