Posted on 11/12/2014 4:50:02 AM PST by LeoMcNeil
MIT economist Johnathan Gruber is the architect of both Romneycare and Obamacare. Speaking to a group of like minded progressives last year Gruber declared that “lack of transparency is a huge political advantage.” He went on to declare “and basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical for the thing to pass.” He’s referencing, in part, the Obamacare tax. The administration and the Democrats had to hide from the American people to true cost of Obamacare. If voters knew the cost they wouldn’t support Obamacare. Thus it had to be hidden from the public and the Democrats could hide the truth because the public is to stupid to figure it out.
Gruber has since apologized for calling voters stupid. Such an apology is hollow and meaningless. By not calling the individual mandate a tax, the Democrats saved themselves from a massive CBO score on tax costs. Had the CBO scored Obamacare with the individual mandate tax, the Democrats wouldn’t have been able to push through the law. Gruber admits that the country was lied to and he admits that progressive Democrats believe we were to stupid to figure it all out. Interestingly the public has never supported Obamacare and never believed all of the pie in the sky figures about it. The Democrats lost two midterm elections, in part because of Obamacare. In the very least flipping 64 House seats in 2010 is sufficient evidence that the public isn’t quite as stupid as the progressives believe we are.
Gruber acknowledges what we’ve always known about progressives. The ends justify the means. For people like Gruber and Obama, it’s okay to lie to the public if it’s for the right cause. In the case of Obamacare, they apparently believe this was a right enough cause to lie to the public about. Of course the individual mandate tax isn’t the only thing they lied about, they’ve also lied about how many people would actually sign up for Obamacare. For the CBO they estimated 13 million would sign up in the second year. Earlier this week they predicted 9-10 million. With fewer actually enrolled, it’s unlikely Obamacare will come anywhere near breaking even. Had the CBO scored Obamacare with fewer predicted enrollees, the cost would have been to great for the Democrats to push it through Congress. Of course who could forget Obama’s absurd claims that Obamacare would reduce premiums by $2,500 or that we would be able to keep our doctor. Like the Obamacare tax, the progressives knew all along these claims weren’t true but they claimed them anyway because the ends justify the means.
The nice thing about Obamacare is that it has exposed the progressives for the lying manipulators they are. For all the excitement around hope and change in 2008, the public has soured on big government progressiveness. Obamacare alone has given us the individual mandate tax that we were lied to about. The government couldn’t get a website up and running last year in time for their open enrollment period. It took them months to fix the problem despite having three years to build the website and despite months of claiming everything was fine. This year they’re trying to come up with contingency plans because they’re still not confident the website will be able to handle all of their anticipated traffic. Between all of the lying and incompetence, Obamacare remains as unpopular today as it was when it was passed.
No doubt the progressives will tell us everything is working out great with Obamacare. There’s no reason to trust these people, they’re admitted liars. The Obamacare house of cards is going to topple one way or another. Either the Supreme Court will rule that subsidies aren’t available to people buying on the Federal exchange (the law specifically limits subsidies to purchasers on state exchanges only) which will topple the whole law or it will collapse because insurance companies start losing massive amounts of money due to the fact that people aren’t buying policies. More specifically the right people aren’t buying policies, those being the young and healthy. Had the progressives told us the truth about Obamacare, the bill never would have passed. For them the ends justify the means but you have to wonder if the entire law collapses whether that end will be worth the means. Single payer is highly unlikely at this point and the credibility of big government progressives has been shot. In the end, will it have been worth it?
Post this to liberal websites and the places they visit online. We already know this ad nauseum. The 47 % are the ones who need to know it.
GOP-carpetbagger and Soros'-backstabber Romney:
"Always remember that I was first to impose Death Panels."
"At the foundation of our civil liberties lies
the principle that denies to government officials
an exceptional position before the law and which
subjects them to the same rules of conduct
that are commands to the citizen."
Justice Louis D. Brandeis
And they got a little help from their friend on the SC.
Those liberals are smart enought to figure out what’s good for them.
There, fixed it!
If they can get away with it, progressives will ALWAYS lie. Their deceit is second only to Satan.
Traitor Roberts had to correct some of the lies to make it hold.
What difference does it make?
save for later
Or stopped as the is the case when Republicans are in power.
Republicans had to roll over and play dead.
Progressives are rebranded communists.
Communists ALWAYS lie.
Thoughts from my simple mind: I’m not so sure this is a “got caught” kind of thing. I’m suspicious as to the timing and have thoughts in the back of my mind that this was 1.) indeed part of the plan if the GOP took the Senate.... release these video’s as a “So now what are you going to do about it?” type scenario against the GOP... kinda like the whole immigration reform by years end ultimatum. Or, 2.) Made available by vulnerable Dems who are hoping to have the opportunity to vote to repeal it before they are up for re-election in 2 years - and will use this as their excuse to do so. Or 3.) Insurance companies are behind the release because the SCOTUS is taking up the case again and they know they’ll lose customers. Regardless of who and why, I’m glad it’s out for all to see, but I do think we need to “watch the other hand”.... seems there’s more to the sudden releases than we can see right now. The GOP needs to not be wasting time trying to “fix” the law, but go full throttle repealing it!! Just my observations...
“Gruber has since apologized for calling voters stupid.”
NO HE HAS NOT!!!
Quote: “The comments in the video were made at an academic conference. I was speaking off the cuff and I basically spoke inappropriately and I regret having made those comments.”
“Inappropriate” and “regret” do NOT equal an apology. Saying that the comments were inappropriate does mean that he does not believe them to be true. And I am sure he regrets that his TRUE beliefs were recorded and made public. He says NOTHING about regretting his fundamental belief that Americans are stupid or lying about ObamunistCare to get it by the CBO.
This is typical, classic Clinton/Obama parsing and empty “apology” speak. These people are evil, lying bastards and should be imprisoned like the criminals they are.
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I agree with full repeal of it - EVERY WORD OF IT. I am not, however in agreement that this is some kind of liberal ploy to do anything. The very damaging evidence of these remarks are where he talks about the lengths to which they had to couch the costs, NOT AS TAXES, so that the budgetary duty of the House would be subverted, AND puts them in the very bad predicament of John Roberts definitely calling it a tax.
If you couple this, which is probably going to be introduced as evidence in the current SC case along with what the government is now calling a “scrivener’s error” re: states allowed to choose to not set up exchanges and thereby invalidating subsidies for them, I think you have a good case for invalidating the entire 2000+ page law. Yet, it will take something of a miracle for John Roberts to admit he was wrong (or coerced).
Frankly, I don’t think with the way that the majority of America feels about ObamaCare, Republicans would catch more flak than usual in just repealing EVERY WORD OF IT. It would be a wonderful backdrop to Hillary in 2016.
You may be right. I am STILL WAITING for the LATIMES to release the “.. videotape of the 2003 farewell bash in Chicago at which Barack Obama lavished praise on the guest of honor, Rashid Khalidi — former mouthpiece for master terrorist Yasser Arafat?....”
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