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Constitutional Convention is Within Reach For Conservatives
Dignitas News Service ^ | July 17, 2014 | Paul M Winters

Posted on 11/01/2014 12:13:09 PM PDT by dignitasnews

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1 posted on 11/01/2014 12:13:10 PM PDT by dignitasnews
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2 posted on 11/01/2014 12:19:51 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Any energy source that requires a subsidy is, by definition, "unsustainable.")
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Let the Democrats and GOP-e politicians rewrite the constitution?


3 posted on 11/01/2014 12:19:59 PM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!",)
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For later study.


4 posted on 11/01/2014 12:20:51 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Barak Hussein Obama (Benghazi Barry)- the first step into a thousand years of darkness.)
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My only objection to an Article V convention of the states is that the feral government simply ignores the constitution now. Why would they not just ignore any new amendments?


5 posted on 11/01/2014 12:21:42 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Any energy source that requires a subsidy is, by definition, "unsustainable.")
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Welcome to FR.

Excellent article and thank you for posting it entirely.

Again, welcome.


6 posted on 11/01/2014 12:22:30 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Valid concern. That said, if we are to invoke Article V, Id rather it come from the right than the left.


7 posted on 11/01/2014 12:23:29 PM PDT by dignitasnews
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Thanks Vendome.


8 posted on 11/01/2014 12:23:55 PM PDT by dignitasnews
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If we simply repealed 16 and 17, most of our problems would vanish. Add in All Laws Shall Apply to All People Equally without exception, and it might spell liberty.


9 posted on 11/01/2014 12:26:40 PM PDT by eyeamok
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BUMP for later...


10 posted on 11/01/2014 12:37:16 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
My only objection to an Article V convention of the states is that the feral government simply ignores the constitution now. Why would they not just ignore any new amendments?

Well, if the new amendments posed mandatory punishments for their violation that would make some difference — here's four amendments I'd propose:

Tax Reform Amendment Fiscal Responsibility Amendment
Section I
No tax, federal or state, shall ever be withheld from the wages of a worker of any citizen of either.

Section II
No property shall be seized for failure to pay taxes until after conviction in a jury trial; the right of the jury to nullify (and thereby forgive) this debt shall never be questioned or denied.

Section III
The second amendment is hereby recognized as restricting the power of taxation, both federal and state, therefore no tax (or fine) shall be laid upon munitions or the sale thereof.

Section IV
The seventh amendment is also hereby recognized, and nothing in this amendment shall restrict the right of a citizen to seek civil redress.

Section V
No income tax levied by the federal government, the several States, or any subdivision of either shall ever exceed 10%.

Section VI
No income tax levied by the federal government, the several States, or any subdivision of either shall ever apply varying rates to those in its jurisdiction.

Section VII
No retroactive or ex post facto tax (or fee) shall ever be valid.

Section VIII
The congress may not delegate the creation of any tax or fine in any way.

Section IX
No federal employee, representative, senator, judge, justice or agent shall ever be exempt from any tax, fine, or fee by virtue of their position.

Section X
Any federal employee, representative, senator, judge, justice or agent applying, attempting to apply, or otherwise causing the application of an ex post facto, retrospective, or retroactive law shall, upon conviction, be evicted from office and all retirement benefits forfeit.
Section I
The power of Congress to regulate the value of the dollar is hereby repealed.

Section II
The value of the Dollar shall be one fifteen-hundredth avoirdupois ounce of gold of which impurities do not exceed one part per thousand.

Section III
To guard against Congress using its authority over weights and measures to bypass Section I, the ounce in Section II is approximately 28.3495 grams (SI).

Section IV
The Secretary of the Treasury shall annually report the gold physically in its possession; this report shall be publicly available.

Section V
The power of the Congress to assume debt is hereby restricted: the congress shall assume no debt that shall cause the total obligations of the United States to exceed one hundred ten percent of the amount last reported by the Secretary of the Treasury.

Section VI
Any government agent, officer, judge, justice, employee, representative, or congressman causing gold to be confiscated from a private citizen shall be tried for theft and upon conviction shall:
a. be removed from office (and fired, if an employee),
b. forfeit all pension and retirement benefits,
c. pay all legal costs, and
d. restore to the bereaved twice the amount in controversy.

Section VII
The federal government shall assume no obligation lacking funding, neither shall it lay such obligation on any of the several States, any subdivision thereof, or any place under the jurisdiction of the United States. All unfunded liabilities heretofore assumed by the United States are void.

Section VIII
The federal government shall make all payments to its employees or the several states in physical gold. Misappropriation, malfeasance and/or misfeasance of funds shall be considered confiscation.
Commerce Clause Amendment Senate Reform Amendment
Section I
The federal government shall directly subsidize no product or industry whatsoever, saving the promotion the progress of Science and useful Arts.

Section II
The federal government shall never prescribe nor proscribe what the several states teach. Neither the federal government nor the several states shall ever deny the right of parents to teach and instruct their children as they see fit.

Section III
The congress may impose tariffs, excise taxes, and customs duties on anything imported or exported, provided that they are applied uniformly and in no manner restrict, subvert, or circumvent the second amendment.

Section IV
No law may impose prohibitions of any sort on the commerce between the several states due to the item itself.
Section I
The seventeenth amendment is hereby repealed.

Section II
The several states may provide by law the means by which their senators may be removed or replaced.

11 posted on 11/01/2014 12:45:20 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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Most of those GOP voters and reps just aren't that keen on something like this.

Big changes are always bought by loss of support, and Republicans won't have enough of a margin to secure major changes, even if they wanted to.

12 posted on 11/01/2014 12:45:37 PM PDT by x
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Correction the alt-value for gold should be 0.14393 mol AU.
13 posted on 11/01/2014 12:53:44 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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Most of those GOP voters and reps just aren't that keen on something like this.
Big changes are always bought by loss of support, and Republicans won't have enough of a margin to secure major changes, even if they wanted to.

That's why we shouldn't frame this as a Republican/Democrat issue, but as justice/injustice issues — do you really think that the majority of Americans approve of the IRS's political targeting, or [if they knew about it] their policy of property seizure w/o trial? Do you think that the majority of Americans are happy with the NSA's domestic espionage? Or the continual unencumbered accumulation of public debt?

All of these can be framed in terms of justice and eliminating the possibility of corruption by limiting government's powers in certain arenas.

14 posted on 11/01/2014 1:00:09 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

I like them.


15 posted on 11/01/2014 1:01:29 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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If there is an Eric Holder in the USAG office, none of them will ever be enforced.

Or a Mitch McConnell, for that matter.

16 posted on 11/01/2014 1:04:13 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Any energy source that requires a subsidy is, by definition, "unsustainable.")
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Thank you — I’m working on putting them into a booklet-form along with reasoning/justifications, hopefully the result will be decent.
(Would you like a ping to it when I’m done?)


17 posted on 11/01/2014 1:04:27 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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read


18 posted on 11/01/2014 1:04:55 PM PDT by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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“conservatives” will be the minority in any real convention


19 posted on 11/01/2014 1:05:00 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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Do you think that if these were passed an AG would ignore them?


20 posted on 11/01/2014 1:09:44 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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