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Part 2 tomorrow.
1 posted on 10/16/2014 11:34:54 AM PDT by lifeofgrace
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If you don’t like Halloween, then don’t participate. No one really cares.


37 posted on 10/16/2014 12:28:10 PM PDT by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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I agree with not celebrating Halloween. However, if you’re going to be consistent Christmas and Easter have to go too. The origins of Christmas are in pagan winter solstice celebrations. Just about everything associated with the holiday, from the tree and yule log to gift giving, flows directly from pagan celebrations. Easter is much the same, its origins are in sex and fertility springtime pagan holidays. Thus the rabbits and eggs. I’m all in favor of ridding the church of all of these holidays.


39 posted on 10/16/2014 12:29:52 PM PDT by LeoMcNeil
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Pope Gregory IV moved the traditional May celebrations of All Hallows Day and All Souls Day to November 1-2, to coincide with Samhain.

Seems like every year I have to refute this.

The earliest martyrologies we have show that the Celtic Christians indeed celebrated All Saints Day in Spring (I believe April actually). Later martyrologies show it was moved to the Roman date, which was Nov. 1.

But the author got the reason totally wrong.

The reason the Romans celebrated on Nov. 1st is because on that day a church was dedicated in Rome to "All the Saints". It was pretty typical then, as indeed it still is, to celebrate the anniversary of the dedication of a church.

Believe me when I tell you a Roman in the 700s or 800s wouldn't have cared one flying fig about an obscure holiday celebrated by Celtic pagans at the boundaries of the known world.

43 posted on 10/16/2014 12:33:20 PM PDT by Claud
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It’s fun. Don’t worry about Pt. 2.


45 posted on 10/16/2014 12:38:10 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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But it’s fun.


47 posted on 10/16/2014 12:41:23 PM PDT by discostu (YAHTZEE!)
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Halloween was instructive to me... taught me to engage adults in a conversation. In particular, when we were visiting grandparents in Wilmington Delaware and my uncle took us around the neighborhood (duplexes and row homes with front porches) This was early 1960’s and there were many older couples there. We knocked on the door, we were invited into the living room and asked about our costumes and coaxed to sing a song or otherwise entertain the people there.

That was a lot of work to get the candy!


49 posted on 10/16/2014 12:55:20 PM PDT by mason-dixon (As Mason said to Dixon, you have to draw the line somewhere.)
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Some of the best parties I’ve been to are Halloween Parties,,, never a bad one...


50 posted on 10/16/2014 12:55:32 PM PDT by ßuddaßudd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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Part one was irritating and boring enough. This guy needs to get the fudgesickle stick surgically removed from his anus and take a couple shots of Bushmills and loosen up a little. :-)


51 posted on 10/16/2014 12:57:14 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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I’ll sit here eating my candy corn and carmel apples waiting for part II.


55 posted on 10/16/2014 1:05:19 PM PDT by rdl6989
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Halloween is a celebration of fear, secrecy, darkness, death, and mayhem.

That can be said for several of our holidays.

We need to shake up our holiday calendar--get rid of Halloween and the above-mentioned holidays, give greater emphasis to Martin Luther King Day, and make Cesar Chavez day (March 31), Cinco de Mayo (May 5) and John F. Kennedy's birthday (May 29) national holidays.

56 posted on 10/16/2014 1:09:52 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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...a humbug...

FWIW, a humbug is a public hoax, or one who perpetrates public hoaxes.

P.T. Barnum was known as the "Prince of the Humbugs".

When Ebenezer Scrooge said, "Bah! Humbug!" about Christmas, he was calling it a hoax.

57 posted on 10/16/2014 1:18:42 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Government should be afraid of the people)
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Gee whiz, I just can’t wait for part II. (snicker)


58 posted on 10/16/2014 1:24:19 PM PDT by driftless2
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We did not celebrate Halloweeen. Not for us. It helped the children learn to live out being different from their peers and wasn’t much to give up.

We went to a film or a harvest party on Halloween.


61 posted on 10/16/2014 1:32:05 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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I grew up with Halloween like most American children. We went out trick-or-treating every year. I remember wearing some kind of costume and knocking on doors, asking for candy. It was a somewhat simpler time—the late 60’s and the 70’s. We didn’t worry so much about gang violence or child abductions. We went out carrying little orange plastic pails decorated like jack-o-lanterns, dressed in store-bought Bugs Bunny or Hong Kong Phooey costumes, or a homemade ghost or vampire with plastic fangs. We feasted on Pez, Bubblicious, M&M’s, and the coveted Reese’s Cups until we were sugar-buzzed and sick to our stomachs.

Yet you'll deny this generation's children the same American tradition that you, yourself, enjoyed.

Every year at this time, we get the same, stick-in-mud, type of anti-Halloween spewage from someone with some sort of axe (religious, political, or otherwise) to grind.

Generations of Americans have grown up with Halloween. It is a uniquely American tradition. It creates great memories for kids.

Go be miserable someplace else.

63 posted on 10/16/2014 1:36:27 PM PDT by Washi
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I like Halloween even more than I used to because it is a “socially encouraged” event that forces smothering parents to open the door of the padded pastel prisons in which they have confined their children, to prevent them from ever experiencing “bad”.

The same kind of parents that don’t want grades given in schools, or scores kept in children’s sports, and who give “participation prizes” to all the kids, stealing their children’s victories and defeats because the parents live in a state of fear and neurosis.

But Halloween means that their children will see *strangers* who live in ways different from their parents, with nothing sanitized or denatured to prevent them from being traumatized and scarred for life.

Which is precisely why children love Halloween, because for once in a year their imaginations are free, they can see new and unexpected things, and how tragic it is for their parents to be so frightened of life.


64 posted on 10/16/2014 1:58:44 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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Halloween is a feast of stupid self-indulgence.

So you're saying Halloween is like the posted article?

65 posted on 10/16/2014 2:10:14 PM PDT by Moltke ("The Press, Watson, is a most valuable institution if you only know how to use it.")
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"You're not yourself when you're hungry."

66 posted on 10/16/2014 2:24:26 PM PDT by mikrofon (*SNICKERS*)
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You see, Bibles were rare back then, and it was simply much easier to give the heathens a new holiday to celebrate than the actually teach them Biblical truth.

You're sure that this is why we have Halloween?

69 posted on 10/16/2014 5:46:24 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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For those who can't wait to dig in to Part 2, here's the link:

http://www.sgberman.com/2014/10/17/3-reasons-halloween-stupid-part-2/
70 posted on 10/16/2014 6:35:09 PM PDT by lifeofgrace (Follow me on Twitter @lifeofgrace224)
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So All Hallows Eve is not Catholic?

Trying to figure out where you got this erroneous information.


74 posted on 10/29/2014 1:04:08 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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