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'Save Excalibur' fails: Madrid euthanizes Ebola patient's dog
CNN Health ^ | October 8, 2014 | Jacque Wilson

Posted on 10/08/2014 12:50:20 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

(VIDEO-AT-LINK)

Madrid health authorities have put down Ebola patient Teresa Romero Ramos' dog, Excalibur, despite protests. The animal was sedated prior to euthanasia to avoid its suffering, the Health Ministry of Madrid said in a statement.

More than 330,000 people had signed a petition on Change.org to save Excalibur. Ramos, a nurse's assistant, is in isolation after testing positive for the deadly Ebola virus earlier this week. Health authorities worried her dog may have also become infected.

Which warrants the questions: Can dogs really get Ebola and spread it to humans? What about other animals?

In Africa, Ebola infection "has been documented through the handling of infected chimpanzees, gorillas, fruit bats, monkeys, forest antelope and porcupines," WHO says, though researchers think fruit bats are what they call the virus' "natural host."(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Local News; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: dogs; ebola; excalibur; goodnews; necessity; sanitywins; spain
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To: fatnotlazy

the dirty little secret in the shelter communmity is the no-kills simply’stop accepting animals when they are full. the shelters that put down b/c they have too many, are the ones those animals the no-kills reject, wind up going to, often because their charters do not allow them to reject animals becuase they’re full.

so the no-kills get to maintain this image but know the animals they turn down will go to a shelter that can’t refuse them based ‘on space, and they may wind up euthanizing some to make room for newer arrivals.

i know this firsthand. the no-kills let other places’do the dirtywork for them.


21 posted on 10/08/2014 1:27:45 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Advil000

Bushmeat is probably the biggest reason for the Ebola epidemic in humans from what I’ve read over the last few years.


22 posted on 10/08/2014 1:28:39 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Muslims everywhere will rejoice at this turn of events.

As a dear FReeper friend has reminded me, there has never been a single, verifiable case of Ebola being transmitted by a dog.

Just hysterical rumors.


23 posted on 10/08/2014 1:29:58 PM PDT by Salamander (People will stare. Make it worth their while.)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

well to be’clear id didn’t say i didn’t value animals’over’throat cutting savages. i just’said i wasn’t trying to say animals and people are equal. value and equal are not identical terms. things can be unequal and i can still value a lesser thing more. my horse isn’t a jihadi joe, but because’he-s’my horse he’s a heck of a lot more valuable to me than that terrorist will ever be.


24 posted on 10/08/2014 1:31:15 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
and just to stop the potential assinine attack before it begins i’m not saying animals and people are equal

Let's see how this plays out.

I made a post noting that humans and dogs are not equal - the loss of a human is immeasurably more sad than the loss of a dog.

Secret Agent Man then posts three paragraph diatribe excoriating that position. But, (he insists) he isn't saying that position is wrong.

How does that work?

25 posted on 10/08/2014 1:35:08 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I did write of the exception I had. I said “Except, I value animals more”.


26 posted on 10/08/2014 1:37:11 PM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They should have sent her dog to America.

Where it could have died a natural death...

Shot, by a policeman.


27 posted on 10/08/2014 1:40:10 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Secret Agent Man
The no-kill shelter in my region built a huge new facility about 2 years ago. It also had an extensive fostering program where volunteers take in the overflow and special needs animals. A woman I know is one of these volunteers. She just took in a litter of newborn kittens. These need a lot of special care such as constant bottle feedings. She has also taken in elderly and chronically ill dogs and cats.

This shelter also conducts a New Years Eve “raid” of the local kill shelters whereby this shelter rescues as many critters scheduled for euthanasia as they can.

28 posted on 10/08/2014 1:42:55 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

at least the dog didn’t have to endure a visit from Jesse Jackson.


29 posted on 10/08/2014 1:47:28 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Doggone.

I hope they learn from this nurse what went wrong. I still think they are underestimating this disease.

But I am happy that no more cases have been reported in Texas. If Duncan was contagious from the 24th to the 26th when he was hospitalized, we are now 12 days past that. Too early to sound the all clear, but since Duncan developed symptoms on what’s thought to be the 9th day since he was exposed, the odds are good we won’t see any additional cases. Of course Duncan could have been exposed before helping the pregnant lady, which would mean it took longer than 9 days for him to develop symptoms.


30 posted on 10/08/2014 1:52:57 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

Did you miss this?

Latest Ebola victim sheriff’s deputy ordered to Duncan’s apartment without protective gear
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3212889/posts


31 posted on 10/08/2014 1:54:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...
Ping…

A link to this thread has been posted on the Ebola Surveillance Thread

32 posted on 10/08/2014 1:54:28 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dang it, they just rushed a second person to the hospital with symptoms of Ebola who had contact with Duncan.


33 posted on 10/08/2014 1:54:44 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Salamander

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?hl=en&q=cache:6JVKho3Gu-0J:http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/11/3/pdfs/04-0981.pdf%2Bebola+dog+transmission&gbv=2&&ct=clnk

The CDC disagrees with your mere rumor assessment.


34 posted on 10/08/2014 2:01:43 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

[Sad]

What is sad it that people care more about their pets than they do people.


35 posted on 10/08/2014 2:06:13 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: MrEdd

There is nothing in that report from 2005 stating that a person has ever caught Ebola from a dog. Porcupines, bats, antelope, monkeys, yes. Dogs? No.

If you believe that there is, and it appears as if you do, please copy and paste the relevant text out of the PDF and into your reply.

I’d like to see it.


36 posted on 10/08/2014 2:18:34 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Did you miss this? Latest Ebola victim sheriff’s deputy ordered to Duncan’s apartment without protective gear"

I did. You beat me by 14 seconds.

37 posted on 10/08/2014 2:19:04 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: MrEdd

Kindly direct me to the section that documents a person getting infected by a dog.
It’s not in there, the report says as much.


38 posted on 10/08/2014 2:34:23 PM PDT by Salamander (People will stare. Make it worth their while.)
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To: Salamander
The research says the virus in dogs tested at a level sufficient to be Transmitted.

Now, I know that you would like for that to be insignificant until they actually get a volunteer and carry that out under laboratory conditions, but it isn't.

So, no - lack of experiments on humans does not reduce the risk factor to that of a rumor.

I guess that you could volunteer to be tested on with an infected dog, just so the issue would be settled in your mind. That would be an awful thing to do to your family though, as there really isn't much medical doubt.

39 posted on 10/08/2014 2:41:50 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good thing there’s not any bats in Dallas.

Oh, wait...


40 posted on 10/08/2014 3:13:08 PM PDT by brothers4thID (Be professional, be courteous, and have a plan to kill everyone in the room.)
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