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Greenfield: There Are No Self-Hating Jews
Sultan Knish blog ^ | Sunday, August 24, 2014 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 08/24/2014 7:46:59 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell

Sunday, August 24, 2014

There Are No Self-Hating Jews

Posted by Daniel Greenfield @ the Sultan Knish blog

Let's say that Chester A. Maxwell decides that he hates America. He takes a flight from Massachusetts to Paris, renounces his citizenship and spends the rest of his life stomping up and down the beaches of France and screaming imprecations at Americans.

Our friend Chester is not a self-hating American because he is no longer an American. He may have an American accent, like the same foods, books and movies that give him a common reference point with many of his old countymen and otherwise be mistaken for one of the gang. But he isn't.

Even if he chooses to continue describing himself as an American, it's a meaningless self-description. 'American' is a group identity. Not an individual identity. You cannot be an American who does not want to be part of America or to associate with other Americans.

Nor is Chester self-hating. Just because he hates America and Americans doesn't mean that he hates himself. He probably likes himself a good deal. People with poor self-images rarely reject group identities. Those who reject a group identity this vehemently tend to be extremely egotistical.

Now suppose Chester Maxwell's real name is Howard F. Goldstein and he spends all his time screaming about Israel from Ann Arbor. When he speaks, his accent has more than a little Brooklyn in it, his bookshelves are lined with books by Jewish authors and he has a fondness for knishes.

Accuse him of anti-Semitism and he exclaims that he's a Jew. But Howard is as Jewish as Chester is American.

Jewish is a group identity. There is no such thing as an individual Jew. No man is an island and certainly no Jew is. Someone who is not part of the Jewish people is not a Jew. 

The term self-hating Jew is also self-nullifying.  Self-hating Jews rarely hate themselves, though sometimes the neurotic stereotypes hold true. And someone who hates Jews is not a Jew.

Modernism has confused many of these issues. Pundits scratch their heads wondering whether the Jews are a religion, an ethnic group or a nation... when they have always been all three. Likewise the left has defined bigotry exclusively in terms of an oppressor-oppressed relationship. And while bigotry can relate to the attitude of an oppressor toward the oppressed, it is not limited to that. It is possible for bigotry to exist without power relationships and even within a particular group.

The anti-Semitic Jew is as real a manifestation as white liberals who emphasize their disdain for white people or the middle class black man who sneers at most of his own race as 'ghetto'.

Jewish anti-Semites hate Jews for most of the same reasons that his fellow non-Jewish anti-Semites do. He may focus in on certain perceived Jewish traits that he despises, he may feel injured in some way by Jews as a group, but these and other examples are instances of viewing Jews as an "Other".

By viewing Jews as an "Other", the Jewish anti-Semite concedes that he is no longer a Jew, no matter how much Brooklyn there is in his voice or how many Jewish authors line his bookshelf.

The most common anti-Semitism is the explicit perception of Jews as an "Other" who are seperatists and disrupt the larger society by clannishly holding themselves apart from it for their own agenda. The left's expressions of anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism have always consisted of this same critique. And the most common Jewish anti-Semites today are those of the left.

The Jews who publicly beat their breasts in the pages of the New York Times or on Twitter about how "conflicted" they feel because of what Israel is doing in Gaza are torn between two identities. One is a subordinate Jewish identity and the other is the dominant identity of the left. The left views Jews and the Jewish State as an "Other" and they see the scraps of their Jewish identity as an "Other". A cruel murderous Nazi-like "Other" who senselessly kills children out of fanatical nationalism.

Full-blown Jewish anti-Semites are not conflicted. They simply view Jews as a group as an "Other". They are not Jews. No more than Chester is an American. They simply have some of the cultural markers.

Out of the postmodern confusion of the multicultural society arose the old anti-Semitic perception, now embraced by Jewish secularists, that a Jew was an individual with a series of common traits. The stereotypes that these Jews clung to (humor, neurosis, Chinese food on Christmas) were not the same ones as the general perception (good with numbers, nerdy, greedy) but they amounted to the same thing. Jewish identity was reduced to a set of behaviors associated with a particular time and place in American Jewish life. Jewish comedians and writers turned the stereotypes into cultural markers.

The stereotypes had nothing to do with Jewish identity. A quick look at  Yemenite Jews would confirm that. They were markers associated with some urban centers in some parts of the United States around the early and middle parts of the 20th century. Most of them are vanishing now. They were never anything more than cultural immune system reactions, neurotic multicultural rashes.

This confusion of stereotypical traits with identity is what leads some to identify Woody Allen as a quintessential Jew when he has no Jewish identity and is not Jewish in any sense that matters. Confusing a display of stereotypes with identity would make Al Jolson black and Mickey Rooney Asian.

The question of "Who is a Jew" has endlessly and needlessly complicated. When the question is broken down into modern categories like race and religion and then run through the filter of individually constructed identities and assorted stereotypes, it becomes endlessly confusing.

But it doesn't have to be.

Jews are a family united by a common religion and originating from a single land. They have been described as a religious civilization. Considering the Bible as the oldest history of the Jewish people and the Jewish role in the world's religions, that seems like an apt description.

Like any family, it is possible to marry into it. It is not however possible to leave it and remain a Jew.

The most significant part of Jewish identity is not who your parents were, but who your children will be. It is possible to be a Jew if your parents were not Jewish. It is not however possible to pull a Chester, to stomp around the beaches of France insisting that you're an American. If Chester marries in France, his children and grandchildren will be French. Chester's American identity ends with him.

There are real examples of that, such as the Confederados of Brazil who still have the gray uniforms and bits and pieces of Southern history, but whose children don't speak English and haven't been to the United States. America is a distant cultural legacy to them, but they are now Brazilians.

Being Jewish is not an accident. It's not a collection of Woody Allen movies or any other meaningfully meaningless cultural signifiers from 20th century New York.

It's Jewish children who raise other Jewish children who will go on to do the same thing.

The Jews of the present day are only a cross-section of the Jewish People in its entirety, comprising the past, present and future. It is possible to enter that cross-section in the past and the present. But once you step out of that cross-section in the present, you are out of that civilization for good.

The so-called "Self-Hating Jew" has stepped out of Jewish history. He remains behind only as an antagonist in the dim recollections of the descendants of the people he has tried to destroy. He may protest that his hatred is founded on some pure source of what Jewish ethics ought to be, but it is not possible for an individual to define Jewishness on his own terms in a way that will last across time.

It takes a great deal to maintain a civilization across thousands of years. Whatever else the civilization does, it must perpetuate itself to exist. If it cannot pass down its values to its children in a way that will be perpetuated countless centuries from now, it will cease to exist.

Civilizations are the trains that ride the tracks of time. You are either on the train or you aren't. Either you maintain the train or it breaks down and your civilization ends. If your civilization is mobile and flexible, then when the train is destroyed you learn to ride a bike. When the bike breaks, you run for a while and hitch a ride. When the tide floods the tracks, you build a boat. When the water dries, you slowly and patiently build another train. That's what the Jews have been doing for a long time.

Adaptability can be dangerous. Those whose minds are too open, lose them. The same biological flexibility that provides vitality also leads to mutations and cancers. Being able to adapt to catastrophic changes makes it more likely that the group will survive, but that you will also lose a lot of individuals along the way. That is what happened to the Jewish People in the last century.

In this century the effects of those crises will be resolved in one way or another. The dead ends will die off. They will leave behind few Jewish children and fewer Jewish grandchildren. It will take some time, but the demographic impact can already be seen in New York. It will be seen elsewhere too.

The leftist Jew who sees the members of the Jewish civilization as an "Other" is a dinosaur. And he
knows it and like the dinosaurs, he will do as much damage as he can on the way out. His organizations will wreak havoc. They will work to destroy the Jewish State and wage war on traditionalist Jews. That is what has been happening in this generation.

Like the Jewish Communist, he has no future. He has a past. But to have a past and no future is to be irrelevant. The Jewish Communists of Russia came from Jewish homes and went to cold graves. Their Western counterparts will fill out cemeteries leaving behind multicultural descendants. Their numbers, for now, appear intimidating, but looking at the cross-section of the Jewish People, they are already gone. It's easy enough to see that in the demographic picture of the next generation.

The self-hating Jew is not a Jew. He is not part of the Jewish civilization moving through time. He may have a Jewish past, but he has no Jewish future.

His malice causes damage in the present, but it is the frustrated act of a mortal man who knows that he has no future, that he will leave behind no legacy that a century of time will not wash away as thoroughly as the debris in the gutter.

There are no self-hating Jews. There are Jews who hate the Jewish People. Their hatred excludes them from the thing that they hate. By Othering Jews, they only Other themselves. Their books, their petitions, their jokes and their protests, their boat trips to Gaza and their letters from 199 Rabbis Against the Occupation and all the other symptoms of their hatred exist in the present, but not the past or the future. In the totality of Jewish civilization across time, they are already gone.


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21 posted on 08/24/2014 9:23:37 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Sioux-san

The Cooperate Church of America speaks once more! Do you think I have come to put away Torah ? No but to complete the prophecy’s. Meaning all that has been told to you by the Prophets has come true in your hearing. Not 4ooo years of history and G_Ds word have disappeared. There is every requirement to follow the Torah and the words of Yeshua. G-D said these are my Feasts and Holy Days and you are to worship me in this way. He said to follow my rules on what you eat and don’t eat. Look at it as when G.M. tells you how to take care of your new car. If you don’t change the oil and do the service it will stop working. Neither Jew nor Gentile but a Third race.


22 posted on 08/24/2014 9:25:13 AM PDT by lostboy61 (Lock and Load and stand your ground!.)
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To: delchiante
Nicely developed. While the secular does not drive out the spiritual, it does create confusion.

Paul has been badly misconstrued throughout history. He remained a practicing Jew and invited all to accept Christ and become Judaic. His concern was that Christ not be subsumed under Mosaic law but be the fullest expression of that law. He never denied Judaism, a fact some of his contemporaries did not adequately understand.

23 posted on 08/24/2014 9:25:43 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

ALL Messianic Jews are followers of Christ by definition, right? That was my quandary when I converted from a non-practicing Episcopalian to a Jew to born-again Christian - am I now a Messianic Jew or what? Labels don’t really matter to me. I only need one “group identity” in this life and welcome any and all to that group. At any rate, I respect what you are saying and the different directions from which we are coming still leads us right to Jesus... and that is GOOD ! ;)


24 posted on 08/24/2014 9:30:07 AM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: Louis Foxwell
There are no self-hating Jews. There are Jews who hate the Jewish People. Their hatred excludes them from the thing that they hate.

Greenfield is normally great, but I think he's trying too hard on this one. And why?

Being able to identify and tag the self-loathing is a very useful thing is this day and time. They are the ones who turn on their heritage and can become the most dangerous and damaging to the heritage they rejected and came to hate.

The guilt-ridden, self-loathing white American is one of the most dangerous types in the USA; the same for their white corollaries in other Western nations. They give us 'whiteness studies" and massive immigration from the Third World, and they are at the root of most anti-American causes in the USA.

We need ways to identify and tag these self-loathers because they often become the most vicious and damaging to the heritage they rejected.

25 posted on 08/24/2014 9:37:12 AM PDT by Will88
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To: lostboy61

Not quite sure what you are saying here - Jesus was speaking to the Jews to continue with their feasts and holy days and all the rules and regs of the Torah EXCEPT for the ritual sacrificial slaughter. Jesus came to be the final ultimate sacrifice for us all past, present and future. Jesus came to Paul after he was resurrected. No words were spoken about the Gentiles by Jesus until after that point. Take the Gospel to the Jews and if they reject you, kick the dust off your feet and head for the Gentiles - everyone needs to hear My Word.

That to me is the game changer that many of the Jews still cannot accept. They don’t have ritual slaughters any more, so now what can it be about? Your last line confuses me - so you are saying that a new race rather than religion came out of melding the Jew and the Gentile into Christians?


26 posted on 08/24/2014 9:39:28 AM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: Sioux-san

Agreed. My only concern here is about those so called Christians who are also anti Semites. That is a contradition. One cannot be a Christian and a Jew hater.


27 posted on 08/24/2014 9:43:07 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

When I saw that a fine English transliteration of Joshua could have been used over 900 times in the new testament instead of the greco roman latin ‘Jesus’, it was a part of a puzzle I was seeing with our Heavenly Father’s calendar.

Acts 7:45 and Hebrews 4:8 were the two scripture witnesses I needed to see that the name Jesus was as much a tradition as anything in Christendom..

Some translations over time have switched those two Jesus entries to the Joshua to make it less confusing - those verses were detailing the Joshua of the old testament..and not the Joshua of the new testament.. well, why just those two changed? If they could be changed, certainly 900 others could have changed...

Certainly a Jew who would see Joshua plastered all over the the new testament would certainly have more interest than the name they do not find in their Tanakh..that is at least an English name they are familiar with and certainly is prophetic since Joshua led them to the Promised Land.

Substitute name, holy days, sabbaths, feasts- that resemble more sun worship.. almost like a whole other savior has been created (a greco roman latin one)that looks and feels like the genuine but if one studies Torah and the prophets, is not off by the words or deeds- but how the followers teach and worship...

We do have a master counterfeiter that is in the business of stealing worship and deceiving the world..


28 posted on 08/24/2014 9:45:24 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: delchiante

Your concerns are masterfully important.


29 posted on 08/24/2014 9:51:36 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

“I am grafted into the body of The People through Christ. I am one with The People of Israel. That is my claim and is the source of my Hope and my peace.”

As am I as a Christian. Our pastor once reminded us that three fourths of our Bible consist of the Hebrew Scriptures, and that as recipients of the truths revealed therein, we Christians are at the very least part Jewish.


30 posted on 08/24/2014 10:19:41 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: delchiante

Jesus’ name in Hebrew is Yeshua, which means salvation. Yeshua HaMashiach, translates as Jesus the Messiah. Joshua is the English spelling of Yeshua, but it’s less confusing to use Yeshua when speaking of our Messiah.
Until the 3rd century, believers met in synagogues and would learn about the teachings of Moses on a weekly basis.They also would have celebrated the God appointed Moadim (Feast Days). Emperor Constantine was the first of many that began to separate believers from the Jewish culture and blend pagan beliefs into their worship.
As a believer in Christ, I do not have to observe the Feast Days and keep Biblically (not halachic) kosher - but I GET TO!


31 posted on 08/24/2014 10:22:57 AM PDT by cong. dance leader
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To: Louis Foxwell

I totally agree with you on that - Leftie Churchians (at least at the national leadership level) are Anti-Zionists/Semites who blabbers that the political state of Israel is the cause of all the world’s problems - just a ruse IMHO, to whip up their complicit ignorant followers (no excuses for being ignorant these days with all the info out there). I doubt seriously that Boko Haram or Al-Qaida in the Philippines or Chechnyans and Albanian/Kosovos give a rat’s patoot about Israel - the followers of Allah are not the followers of the one True God nor are the Leftie Social Justice Churchians who use Jesus as political cover. Proper discernment is vital. We all get what we deserve in the end. Vengeance be mine, sayeth the Lord!


32 posted on 08/24/2014 11:14:29 AM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: cong. dance leader

The Messiah of Israel was born on a New Moon Day, the first day of our Heavenly Father’s 6th month( Revelation 12:1-2-when the sun clothed her and the moon was under her feet- the sign in the sky of the constellation Virgo on a new moon day..

He was circumcised on the eight day of the first month, according to Torah.
According to Ezekiel 46:1, that calendar template means the 8th of the month is the seventh day Sabbath of the first week of His months. That template is laid out through Scripture(including the battle of Jericho)

New moon -day 1
Six work days - days 2-7
sabbath 8th day

He was dedicated in the temple 40 days after his mother’s purification, per Torah
That means He was dedicated on the 10th day of the 7th month
The day of Atonement or Yom Kippur

He was baptized on a New Moon day, His 30th birthday (1st day of His 6th month)- and then scripture tells us he immediately fasted for 40 days/nights ( just like his mother’s purification)

He was killed on the 14th day of the 1st month- Passover
He rested on the 15th in the tomb on the High Sabbath of unleavened bread- a weekly and annual Sabbath according to Ezekiel’s template
He was raised on the 16th day- the feast of first fruits..

Jews celebrated three different passovers- depending on who they follow, some had a march passover, some an April passover and some a may passover..
None of those were the greco roman latin template of good Friday, Saturday and Sunday..
Only one of those is correct... they can’t all be right...
If one knows His calendar and how His Son fulfilled His appointed times, one will know genuine from counterfeit..

If Jesus can fit all those new moons, Sabbaths and feasts, Christendom doesn’t teach them..

A counterfeit bill will have all the right words.. the shadings and sizings and markings may be different.. try to redeem a counterfeit bill anywhere the genuine’s are studied and you will get caught..

The Bride need not be so ignorant of the Bridegroom, making up days that counterfeit the genuine,.
The genuine is a far better story!

HalleluYah!


33 posted on 08/24/2014 11:39:59 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: delchiante

Beautifully done. We must rid ourselves of the continuing efforts to paganize Christ.


34 posted on 08/24/2014 3:48:31 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: Sioux-san; Louis Foxwell

>> “You can love the Jews as a Christian, but there is no reason to also proclaim yourself as a Jew, too. You aren’t. That is why Paul was commissioned by Jesus to go to the Gentiles and proclaim the Gospel” <<

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Allow me to cut through your confusion.

Yeshua said “I am not sent but to the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel.”

The “Gentiles” to whom Paul preached were a special kind of gentile; the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel, primarily, and a few Greeks and Romans that had attached themselves to those congregations.

Perhaps you think that those dispersed Hebrews could not be gentiles? Not so! A gentile is one that is “out of covenant” or uncircumcised, both of which describe the dispersed Hebrews accurately.

Perhaps Louis erred slightly in calling himself a “Jew,” rather than a Hebrew, but his concept is accurate. All that follow Yeshua, and keep his commandments are Israel. This is the main point that Paul was attempting to communicate in his epistle to the Romans.

>> “There was no requirement to adhere to the cultural and religious practices of the Jews to be a Christian.” <<

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That is a false statement. Those that think that they are following Yeshua, but are not keeping his commandments as he so often begged them, are deluded, and will find themselves at the wrong end of the words spoken by Yeshua in Matthew 7:23.

To “believe” in someone in the sense that the word is used in the Bible, requires that one keep all of their teachings and commandments.


35 posted on 08/24/2014 4:11:41 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Amen.


36 posted on 08/24/2014 6:24:00 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("LEX REX." ("The law is the king.") -- Samuel Rutherford)
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To: Sioux-san
First the word Christian in the first two century's of the church did not mean what it means today. It was a part of the Jewish community like we now have many denominations. The first thing I'm asked by another Jew when they find out I'm a Jew is what kind of a Jew? Not all of the Jews rejected Yeshua as his disciples were all Jews. And Pentecost was all Jews. Please do not count out all Jews as there are many of us that know Yeshua and still practice being Jews. As for Third Race find the book The Dust of Death by Os Guinness and it will answer better than I can. I spent three months learning from this man in England in 1971 and it changed my life.
37 posted on 08/24/2014 7:16:33 PM PDT by lostboy61 (Lock and Load and stand your ground!.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Tomorrow is a feast day on His calendar. 50 days after the seventh day Sabbath after Passover..the Feast of Weeks.. leviticus 23

That naturally falls on the 29th day of His 4th month..(Ezekiel 46:1 template fits again) with simple counting and observation of His timekeeping..

moses came down that same day with the tablets and the church was born that same day in Acts.
Both Jew and Christian have had that day in that rear view mirror for some time.

Its a work day for Jew and gentile tomorrow..
In a counterfeit world, that makes sense..

One cannot observe His calendar and the world’s calendar..the pope gregory calendar floats around His.

There is a choice.. I pray more study His and reject the world’s conformity.
There is a cost to either choice, however..

All praise honor and glory to Him!


38 posted on 08/24/2014 7:26:20 PM PDT by delchiante
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39 posted on 08/25/2014 5:08:00 AM PDT by SJackson (incompetent and feckless..the story of the Obama presidency. No hand on the f***ing tiller, Hillary)
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This is a magnificent thread. So little of these truths are ever spoken. The genius of Greenfield has led us inexorably into this discussion. Thank you, all, for the opportunity to express more clearly who we are.


40 posted on 08/25/2014 6:22:45 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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