[NKP_Vet]

Matt Walsh responds.

[vetvetdoug]

My wife committed suicide over 13 years ago and Freepers were most helpful in helping me understand and get through a very difficult time. I understand what Walsh was saying. I have also discovered that suicide hurts the ones that love that person for generations to come. It is permanent for only the departed.

[wbarmy]

Suicide is a choice, and probably the most selfish choice there is. I will be out of pain but my family and loved ones will suffer the demons of Hell wondering if they were at fault or could have done more to help.

Suicide is a the ultimate form of self-centered behavior.

[KosmicKitty]

I got kicked quite a bit yesterday for posting how selfish suicide is and how Williams’ kids will pay for his act for the rest of his life.

Yep, some people got pretty nasty.

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[ChildOfThe60s]

Having grown up with an alcoholic, bipolar mother (that pretty much ruined the first 21 years of my life) I feel like whether anyone agrees with my opinions on this subject, I’ve certainly earned the right to have and express those opinions.

My attitude towards those that don’t like my opinions? Bite me.

As regards Williams, I have the same thing to say as I do with most celebrity burnout deaths. Why is the ending of his life so much more important than that of the poor smuck that lives in the suburbs?

But consider this: most of this country is unperturbed when the Sec of State publicly belittles the heinous deaths of four patriots in service to their country and yet these same people rend their garments and cry rivers of tears for an actor that died by his own hand.

It is sad that he was so unhappy that he saw death as a viable solution, but how about some perspective here?

[TigersEye]

I disagree. Depression is a choice.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

If you want more of something, excuse it. If you want less of something, condemn it.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

What a terrible thing to do to your children.

Children Who Lose a Parent to Suicide More Likely to Commit Suicide Themselves

[hinckley buzzard]

the problem with the man-in-the-street opinion such as Walsh's is that it ultimately says nothing very much. So suicide is a choice? All depends on your philosophy. Aside from spinal reflexes, you could say this equally about every thing ever done. If suicide is a choice, then to be logically consistent, everything is a choice. Circumstances mean nothing. If you believe that, however, you need to read the somewhat politically silly but psychologically important book The Lucifer Effect by Phil Zimbardo. or Obedience to Authority by Stanley Milgram. Then go on to the idea that all mental illness is a mere matter of choice, that paranoid schizophrenics just choose to be crazy. Yes, it was said, by the occasional "radical psychiatrist" back in the seventies.

On the other hand, if you think some behaviors are determined by external influences, then you have to explain why all behavior should not be understood this way.

Maybe it's better not to make pointless and tendentious judgments on people when there is nothing to be gained from the exercise. "Suicide is a choice." "Suicide is cowardly." Fine. Feel better now? Do you think someone will be dissuaded from killing himself out of fear that you might think him a selfish coward? Fat chance.

The only thing accomplished by this Walsh kid and others like him is to stir a pot that hardly needs stirring.

[Responsibility2nd]

Depression isn’t a choice but suicide is: my detailed response to the critics

Friday, August 15, 2014 12:36:06 PM · by NKP_Vet · 33 replies

http://themattwalshblog.com ^ | August 131, 2014 | Matt Walsh

Something happened yesterday. It began with a post I wrote about depression and suicide called “Robin Williams didn’t die from a disease, he died from his choice.” When I clicked “publish” on that piece, I felt confident. I was sad that it had to be written, and upset about the circumstances surrounding it, but sure that I was saying something that needed to be said; something truthful but uplifting, frank but compassionate. I actually found myself getting emotional as I wrote it. I’m not suicidal but I have demons of my own, so I submitted that post to the public,...

 

 

Walsh isn't kidding when he said his article was not well recived. Even here at FR... it created a firestorm....

 

Robin Williams didn’t die from a disease, he died from his choice

Tuesday, August 12, 2014 3:28:29 PM · by NKP_Vet · 214 replies

http://themattwalshblog.com ^ | August 12, 2014 | Matt Walsh

I’m not normally one to write a blog post about a dead celebrity, but then I suppose there is no such thing. There are only living celebrities, not dead ones. In death, wealth and prestige decay and we are brought into a new reality, the only reality there is or ever was — one which, for much better or much worse, doesn’t care at all about our popularity or our money. The death of Robin Williams is significant not because he was famous, but because he was human, and not just because he left this world, but particularly because he...