[Reaganite Republican]

***ping***

[RC one]

not defending anyone here but it seems like flying a commercial jet over a war zone with known automated air defense systems in place is a bad idea.

[lbryce]

Funny that the two most powerful men in the world go by the same name. The Shameless Scumbag Twins.

[txhurl]

I keep asking... why is the WH unwilling to call Malaysia Air and ask for the passenger manifest?

[Cementjungle]

And they MUST be resisted at every turn...

The US used to be the only superpower capable of keeping Russia (and the USSR) in check. Unfortunately, we're currently out to lunch.

[PieterCasparzen]

It hurts Putin’s position to have this plane blow up.

For exactly the reason of articles like this - with this plane blowing up over Ukraine, Russia stands to be blamed for it.

And yet, Russia would gain nothing by shooting down a civilian airplane, other than the contempt of the rest of the world.

The US government, neocons, the UK government, Western banking, etc., - they all benefit from articles like this.

They want the US military to engage in Ukraine to prop up the regime in Kiev and get Ukraine to sign itself into the European Union.

If the US government and its “controllers” can use this plane blowup to rally neocon support for American military action in Ukraine, the event benefits their goals more than anyone else.

Going by who stands to benefit from the event, the finger must point at a Western-backed black op to knock this plane out of the sky over Ukraine.

[free_life]

Putin head psychopathy of a nation of psychopaths.

[Carbonsteel]

Taking a page out of the Obama playbook.

[Nifster]

Once a commie always a commie

[Reaganite Republican]

BTW this is the BUK missile system that took the plane down... obviously Russian or Russian proxies did this- it’s not some shoulder-mounted thing, and the system has never been sold to the Ukrainians

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buk_missile_system

[luvbach1]

Putin’s blame shifting was absolutely Obamian!

[Reaganite Republican]

Here’s an interesting point/2nd angle- the Ukrianians DID have some BUKs, but the rebels took ‘em...

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a post on the official Twitter account of the Donetsk People’s Republic, and later removed, claimed that the separatists earlier had seized a missile system called Buk from the Ukrainian army, capable of downing a jet at that altitude.

“dnrpress: self-propelled Buk surface-to-air missile systems have been seized by the DNR from (Ukrainian) surface-to-air missile regiment A1402,’’ said the post.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/aviation/separatist-leader-igor-strelkov-tells-vk-a-bird-fell/story-e6frg95x-1226993041738?nk=1cc09773df43b0dbdd72aa5abce49a5c

Since the Russian Air Force seems to have shot down a Ukrainian MIG three days ago, I was convinced the Russians did this but maybe it WAS their proxy force in Donetsk after all

[chiefqc]

Mac daddy will save the day with an extra wide red line.

[80skid]

Who was on that plane?

300 or so people died, for what?

[Grzegorz 246]

“Shameless Scumbag Vladimir Putin”

The faster this garbage kicks the bucket, the better. It's time to take the gloves off and just make the garbage have an accident once he flies somewhere outside of his mongoloid shit hole.

[antceecee]

Pretty much straight on ....

[elhombrelibre]

It's going to be hard for the Putinista wing of FReeRepublic when they have to come to grips with the fact that they've been duped by Putin. See this link:

http://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-militants-mh17-transcript-2014-7

[Jimmy Valentine]

Wait. What about “reset”. What about “smart power”

I thought Hillary had fixed all of this

[McGruff]

Did you forget to take your

[attiladhun2]

Where are all the pro-Putin apologists today? I heard Alex Jones last nite still trying to spin this into some kind of NATO false-flag operation, but it was obvious from the gate the airliner was downed by a pro-Ruskie militia unit. First of all, they were boasting on social-media sites about bringing down a Ukrainian transport, then when they realized what they actually had done, pulled down the comments. Secondly, the missile was tracked coming from pro-Ruskie held territory. Thirdly, another Putin-handled militia unit secured the crash site.

Obviously, some of Putin's boys, probably well-fueled themselves with vodka and hashish, saw a blip on the RADAR scope and could not wait to bring down another Ukrainian bogey. "OOPS!" Bigtime f-up. But you can lay all of this at Vladimir's doorstep. He stirred the pot, supplied the hardware, and illegally sent in his thugs to train these militias.