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1 posted on 07/17/2014 9:20:41 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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What happened is that the idea that you had to earn values became offensive, and the idea that people are entitled to values gained strength (pushed, no doubt, by those who had no hope of earning any). Raise a few generations who believe such tripe and the current trend is what you end up with.


2 posted on 07/17/2014 9:24:45 AM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be earned and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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“Manly virtues” are sexist and judgmental.

Welcome to the Obamanation.


3 posted on 07/17/2014 9:24:52 AM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continue)
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I’m good, although occasionally pushing the envelope on the temperance thing.


4 posted on 07/17/2014 9:26:35 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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“Manly virtues” require effort & sacrifice, and when popular culture became saturated in feminism and devalued and stigmatized traditional manliness, a lot of guys said ‘fine now I won’t bother’.


5 posted on 07/17/2014 9:29:58 AM PDT by skeeter
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I wonder how many here are old enough to remember when the word to describe male behavior in WASP America was “masculine” and the Latino word “macho” was used to describe the phony, overt, hyper male behavior famous among Latins, and Hispanics, and then feminism started, and male behavior started being mocked as “macho” behavior.

John Wayne and Jimmy Stewart were masculine.


6 posted on 07/17/2014 9:31:21 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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“Pick any contemporary issue, and chances are you’ll find destroyed male virtue—and loss of cardinal virtues—as a root cause.

Illegitimacy—What’s easier, being a strong man supporting your family, or just knocking her up and running off?

Chemical dependency—Whatever happened to temperance? Who cares? There’s a government sponsored treatment program to bail you out any time and as many times as you need it.

Failing public schools—No more strength, courage, or heroism to stand up to the social engineers. Where is that high school principal willing to kick out the troublemakers and stare down the bureaucrats?

Crime—Only possible without prudence and justice

Poverty and welfare abuse—Thrive without independence, strength, and fortitude”

When men stop being men and pretend to be women society falls apart. The responsible, moral, upstanding man who provides for his family and supports his country is now looked on as at best a sap and a fool.

He is often called a threat and a hindrance to the new politically correct, totalitarian society.


7 posted on 07/17/2014 9:31:41 AM PDT by detective
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For any man who is exploring this topic, I'd recommend Jack Donovan's
The Way of Men, and his other writings.
8 posted on 07/17/2014 9:34:20 AM PDT by rpierce (We have taglines now? :)
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Single moms turn boys into metrosexuals.


9 posted on 07/17/2014 9:42:37 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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Not everywhere but...

Fatherhood replaced by government welfare.
Self and home defense replaced by 911 and gun control laws.
Competitive sports in elementary and high school replaced with “must have girls” on the team.
Church membership mocked and ridiculed by pop culture.
All gay all the time in the military and pop culture
A petulant whining possibly gay president who worships the man in the mirror.
Young women giving it up in the hookup culture.
Brutal family court system.
Assumption of guilt in the legal system
Confiscatory taxes


10 posted on 07/17/2014 9:48:45 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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We were taught that another name for second place is “First Loser”.


11 posted on 07/17/2014 9:49:50 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Unarmed people cannot defend themselves. America is no longer a Free Country.)
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The emasculation of American men did not start with politicians seeking the women's vote; rather, the politicians who have warred on traditional male roles, have been misled by what is best described as an egalitarian Academic/Media complex, that has succeeded in shifting the perception of those influenced by the verbal arts, radically to the Left.

Both Communism (egalitarian collectivism) and other forms of Socialism, are in various grades of denial of the basic differences between men & women, as well as the basic differences in all of us, in terms of personality, aptitudes, motivations, etc..

Of course, any healthy human society depends upon sex roles--the differences between men & women, on which the continuity of human life, depends, and from which most human happiness is derived. The politicians who have embraced the Feminist delusion, are merely parroting the egalitarian fallacies that have arisen in the academic world, and been given currency by a dumbed down journalism.

For more analysis, see Feminist Delusion.

William Flax

12 posted on 07/17/2014 9:52:29 AM PDT by Ohioan
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Finally ..!!!!!!

I’ve always believed in the strong, full of courage Jesus. Not, as you said, the silly, flower child.

Jesus also confronted the Pharisees, calling them “vipers” (Matt 23:33 Amp). Flower children don’t do that.

In fact, I always thought His statements were on purpose. After that public confrontation, the Pharisees continued plotting to kill Him.

Chapter 23 of Matthew shows how Jesus totally took the Scribes and Pharisees apart. It’s great!


14 posted on 07/17/2014 10:11:46 AM PDT by CyberAnt (True the Vote: " MY AMERICA, ... I'm terrified it's slipping away.")
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"Whatever Happened To…Manly Virtues"

Western romanticism and its abominable prostitute: feminism. Have fun. Enjoy the slide.

Sincerely Yours,

Fathers


24 posted on 07/17/2014 11:05:17 AM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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bkmk


25 posted on 07/17/2014 11:11:58 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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Killed off in waves of social unrest following World Wars I & II.


28 posted on 07/17/2014 2:48:16 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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