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How come God never demands love, not punishment for all these folks leaving their countries to come north to America ?. Also as the Pastor points out here- Let us seek to understand the immigrant’s reasons for coming and to work collaboratively for just and reasonable immigration reform. Where is this same pastor and the many more like him out there daily speaking of how the many,many like him that they clearly cannot see that Americans already here cannot find jobs.Where is the let us understand that millions of Americans already here are reasons that are stated here how illegals making Americans move from state after state only to find there is no work in any other sates just the way it is due south.Should Pastors like him stop and ask themselves we have over last report there are about 100 million Americans unemployed if and when they are employed the wages = slave wages..These faith leaders who not bring up the topic that we come together to speak with all the out of work Americans and Immigration and Customs Enforcement ,Congress,Obama intends not to put Americans first ?Why is it faith leaders like these listed here would dare not say anything regarding millions of Americans out of work yet can talk with you all day long about illegals who come here illgally and we speak about them and how we must help them in anyway we can..How come illeglas get dr's apointments right away and at the same time our vets must wait ,wait and hurry up and wait and wait and wait.
1 posted on 07/13/2014 7:53:34 AM PDT by moonshinner_09
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suddenly, liberals recognize the authority of the bible after all...

let’s see how they apply that thinking to abortion and homosexuality

this is an invasion being scripted by the govt’s of mexico and guatemala

the illegal immigrants should be treated humanely, but they should also be sent home


28 posted on 07/13/2014 8:07:52 AM PDT by Reverend Wright (liberal logic: Sarah Palin is not a real woman but "Chelsea" Manning is...)
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What nonsense. Ger Toshav [the stranger who dwells] is not a foreigner, it is a non-Jew that has adopted the lifestyle, culture, and G-d of Israel.


29 posted on 07/13/2014 8:08:21 AM PDT by Tzfat
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There is a difference between a guest and someone demanding you house and clothe them.

At most, they should have a wash, medical check up, a full belly and a plane ticket back home. And that’s just for the kids. Adults knowingly break the law and deserve to be tossed back.


30 posted on 07/13/2014 8:09:15 AM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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Leviticus 19:33-34 recalls when the people of God were unwanted immigrants in Egypt. Central to the biblical narrative is the call to remember the treatment of the Hebrew people so we never return such inhumanity upon others......Ok, alrighty! This guy says enslave these “migrants” and keep them in bondage for hundreds of years until Mose’ comes to lead them into the desert for forty years. I thought the Libs were compassionate?


31 posted on 07/13/2014 8:09:22 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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I’m glad the pastor is offering his home to 20 or 30 immigrant kids cause I ain’t.


35 posted on 07/13/2014 8:12:59 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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Clothe the Naked
Feed the Hungry

The Second Great Command
Love Thy Neighbor as Thyself

I get it...

As individual Christians we are called to do these things.
As the Body of Christ, we are under command to do these things.

But Government is neither of these things
It does not Love, it Compels
It is not Serve, it Demands Service
It takes under threat of Punishment, Imprisonment, and Death

That which is done under compulsion
IS NOT an Act of Love, Caring, Kindness, Forgiveness
IS NOT an Act of Doing Justly, Loving Mercy, Walking Humbly...

It is Enslavement...

36 posted on 07/13/2014 8:13:40 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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The Bible does seem pretty clear:

John 10:1
Very truly I tell you Pharisees, anyone who does not enter the sheep pen by the gate, but climbs in by some other way, is a thief and a robber.

37 posted on 07/13/2014 8:14:17 AM PDT by Flag_This (Liberalism: Kills countries dead.)
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The way that the Democrats are arguing on this matter is interesting. They talk all around the subject. It leads me to believe that there is money in this for the Democrats.


41 posted on 07/13/2014 8:25:01 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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Horsespit and pablum claptrap.

Pastors need to stick to the gospel and not social reconstruction. I’m about as tired of them and their opinions as I am “celebrities”. One has slightly more reasoning ability than the other.


43 posted on 07/13/2014 8:26:07 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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So go to Guatemala or Nicaragua and help them.


46 posted on 07/13/2014 8:38:34 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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The least among us would seem to be the displaced American workers, particularly the black workers, who are displaced in disproportionate numbers, and the companies, particularly the small contractors, who will not hire illegals. How can the rule of law survive if they are not given remedies for the injustices done to them?


48 posted on 07/13/2014 8:46:54 AM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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So we need to allow everyone in the world in who wants to come here?

He probably defends homosexual marriage, never mind what the Bible says.

I am beginning to hate these people. No logic, no common sense. Just feel-good garbage.


49 posted on 07/13/2014 8:47:42 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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The trouble is that we already send these countries huge amounts of aid, that is probably stolen by the Jefes. Their own leaders are exporting their dregs so they can get out of paying the social costs. Mexico prints pamphlets informing its citizens on sneaking into the US to get free medical care. This is an act of sabotage, frankly! For every illegal alien stepping on our southern border I would charge Mexico $100,000, and take it out of their accounts in NY. This nonsense would dry up in a heart beat.

We are more generous than any nation on Earth. So enough with the moralizing.

We are not going to be Uncle Sucker. Most of our states and education systems are out of money. We cannot take thousands of students, period! Our inner cities are apocalyptic crime zones - and we do nothing to stop that violence. Funny, Obama worries more about violence in Guatemala than he does in Chicago!

Why are we not making Mexico, Honduras and Guatemala pay for this! Where is their contribution? Why isn’t the UN in these countries investigating all these rapes? If it is a crisis then let us get the world involved. Why does only America need to pay.


50 posted on 07/13/2014 8:48:29 AM PDT by Titus-Maximus (It doesn't matter who votes for whom, it only matters who counts the votes - Joe Stalin)
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Whether the Bible is clear or not, Alinsky certainly was...

RULE 4: The fourth rule is: Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules.
You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules
than the Christian church can live up to Christianity.


52 posted on 07/13/2014 8:52:59 AM PDT by kanawa
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The Bible DOESNOT advise accepting an invasion of alien peoples. Moses killed the people whose territory he invaded. The current invasion is an event organized by a hostile Mexican government seeking to rid itself of its creatures and possibly to reconquer territory lost to the United States in the 1840's. Mexico has entered into an agreement with Central American governments to allow their citizens to cross Mexican territory and invade the United States.

Worshiping the invader is false doctrine promulgated by churches seeking to increase their power by bringing in members. IT IS NOT COMPASSION IT IS TREASON to assist the invasion. WAKE UP!

53 posted on 07/13/2014 8:55:49 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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I believe in Christian compassion. We should put the illegals in camps, feed them, clothe them, treat their lice, and diseases, and send them home where they belong, where they can work to make their countries better places to live. Give them Christian love, and send them on their way.


55 posted on 07/13/2014 8:59:35 AM PDT by pallis
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Matthew 25 reminds us that salvation hinges on caring for “the least of these.”

A misrepresentation of the Gospel; a lie. So, why read this article any further.
56 posted on 07/13/2014 8:59:40 AM PDT by Resettozero
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This border invasion is a POLITICAL “crisis”. It’s time for the atheist, commie ‘RATS to leave God, the Bible and Christianity out of it. It’s that “church and state” thing that the commies are always crowing about. The DemocRATS need to have their asses kicked for “thumping” the Bible to pimp their communist politics.


58 posted on 07/13/2014 9:03:23 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The future must not belong to those who slander bacon.)
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Liberals sure forget their “separation of church and state” mantra when it’s self serving.


59 posted on 07/13/2014 9:11:06 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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This prophecy of Gods judgment from Deuteronomy 28 was originally given to Israel but seems very appropriate for us at this time.

“Your sons and your daughters shall be given to another people, and your eyes shall look and fail with longing for them all day long; and there shall be no strength in your hand. A nation whom you have not known shall eat the fruit of your land and the produce of your labor, and you shall be only oppressed and crushed continually.........

The alien who is among you shall rise higher and higher above you, and you shall come down lower and lower. He shall lend to you, but you shall not lend to him; he shall be the head, and you shall be the tail.........

Because you did not serve the LORD your God with joy and gladness of heart, for the abundance of everything,therefore you shall serve your enemies, whom the LORD will send against you, in hunger, in thirst, in nakedness, and in need of everything; and He will put a yoke of iron on your neck until He has destroyed you......

a nation of fierce countenance, which does not respect the elderly nor show favor to the young. And they shall eat the increase of your livestock and the produce of your land, until you are destroyed; they shall not leave you grain or new wine or oil, or the increase of your cattle or the offspring of your flocks, until they have destroyed you. They shall besiege you at all your gates until your high and fortified walls, in which you trust, come down throughout all your land; and they shall besiege you at all your gates throughout all your land which the LORD your God has given you.


60 posted on 07/13/2014 9:15:31 AM PDT by slumber1 (Moderation is overrated)
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