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From someone who has lived under a tyrannical system, take Dr. Paugh's comments for what they are worth. Never in 67 years have I seen the country so divided and in such turmoil. Accident? I don't think so. (I guess the first 15 or 20 years don't count too much. :>})
1 posted on 06/11/2014 9:23:11 AM PDT by rktman
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-10 years


2 posted on 06/11/2014 9:23:54 AM PDT by Viennacon
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The prodess is nearing completeion


3 posted on 06/11/2014 9:25:01 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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It’s already gone...................since 1933...............


4 posted on 06/11/2014 9:25:11 AM PDT by Red Badger (Soon there will be another American Civil War. Will make the first one seem like a Tea Party........)
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Most it is already gone


8 posted on 06/11/2014 9:27:53 AM PDT by clamper1797 (Evil WILL flourish when good men WILL not act)
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I can barely see it in the rear-view mirror.


9 posted on 06/11/2014 9:28:07 AM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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It has been gone for a few years. The Constitution is ignored. GOD cannot be mentioned. Responsibility has been replaced with government handouts. Limited government is a thing of the past. The nation is now ruled by a king/dictator.


11 posted on 06/11/2014 9:29:12 AM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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corporatist and international banking oligarchy

disagree with that...lets try leftist fascist communists.

But the end result is the same for thee and me.


12 posted on 06/11/2014 9:29:13 AM PDT by Adder (No, Mr. Franklin, we could NOT keep it.)
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I sense that Americans have had enough and are fighting back via primary defeats of folks such as Rep. Eric Cantor.


14 posted on 06/11/2014 9:31:55 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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Since the same question was probably asked during the Civil War, Founders’ America could actually be around for a long time.


17 posted on 06/11/2014 9:36:06 AM PDT by Amendment10
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Actually started down the hill with Teddy Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson.

FDR and LBJ did huge amounts of damage. Carter was an idiot and Clinton was a scum, but they actually did less damage than LBJ.

John Dewey and others set the public schools on their downward track.

But it’s true that Obama is the worst President ever, and that the decay is growing more rapidly than ever before.


18 posted on 06/11/2014 9:37:09 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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I think the more relevant question is this:

How long before the majority of Americans realize that it is already gone?

How Long before Americans realize they have already lost their freedom?

How long before Americans realize THEY pissed it away themselves?


19 posted on 06/11/2014 9:37:31 AM PDT by Safrguns (PM me if you like to play Minecraft!)
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There's still hope to right the ship.

But there are still serious problems...


20 posted on 06/11/2014 9:38:30 AM PDT by DannyTN
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It’s in the rearview mirror now. The question is do we have enough fuel left to go back and pick it up?


21 posted on 06/11/2014 9:41:43 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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It long ago passed.


22 posted on 06/11/2014 9:42:33 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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We began to lose it when Lincoln reinforced ft Sumter


23 posted on 06/11/2014 9:43:21 AM PDT by clamper1797 (Evil WILL flourish when good men WILL not act)
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How Long Before the Founding Fathers’ America Disappears?

That ship sailed decades and decades ago.

24 posted on 06/11/2014 9:43:34 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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1913 was the year it really started downhill. The Federal Reserve was created, along with the income tax and the IRS. We’re just over 100 years into our own destruction.


26 posted on 06/11/2014 9:55:45 AM PDT by Disambiguator (#cornedbeef)
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It’s already gone.


28 posted on 06/11/2014 9:58:00 AM PDT by Vinylly (?%)
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It’s tempting to say “it’s been gone for years now” but some things are still working pretty well. I can do pretty much whatever I want. However, what I want to do might be affected by what I can do. I can’t start a business, I can’t pay for my own education, I can’t pay for my kid’s education, I can’t travel like I want. I usually chalk that up to personal choices I made, but maybe things would be different if The Founder’s America still existed.


29 posted on 06/11/2014 10:00:37 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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It’s been gone since the 16th and 17th Amendments were ratified. Or, if you don’t think that change was radical enough, since Wikard v. Filburn was wrongly decided.

The only question now is how long before it’s too late to revive the Founding Fathers’ America without a violent revolution — and the answer will become clearer after the next two election cycles. (Not that the revival can be done in a few election cycles, just if they go the right way it will still be feasible, if they go the wrong way, it will soon be time to reach for the cartridge box because soap, ballot and jury will have failed.)


31 posted on 06/11/2014 10:01:53 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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