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Welcome to the United Police States of America: Federal Agents Taser Bundy Ranch Protestors
Saving the Republic ^

Posted on 04/10/2014 5:13:12 AM PDT by SavingtheRepublic.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhJ6H9vlEDA

This all started over the govt taking land in 1993 that the Bundy family has had access to since the late 1870's in which their cattle graze. The land has been deemed a protected habitat for the desert turtle where Bundy's cattle can still graze as long as they pay the grazing tax. The family has refused to pay the tax which has ballooned according to the feds to $1.3 million, keep in mind to run this operation of armed govt agent stormtroopers and removing the cattle the cost will be over $3 million! Yea that's the govt for you proving they cannot run anything!

Anyone see a problem with this right off the bat? If the grazing zone is deemed a habitat for a turtle how does paying a tax all of a sudden make it safe for the desert turtle? Grazing cattle theoretically are "destroying" said habitat are they not? But the govt sees a rancher paying a grazing tax as a remedy but makes no effort to restore the "damaged" areas! Typical govt hypocrisy!

This is an incredibly dangerous slope we are on.

Take note one of the protestors screaming at the BLM rangers is making it clear who the aggressors are and it isn't the unarmed people! Throwing a woman to the ground, repeated tasering of unarmed protestors who are no threat to armed stormtroopers with attack dogs is asking for trouble! With the current high level of disapproval for govt  coupled with the prevalence of the internet, social media, 24/7 new coverages this standoff is going to escalate extremely fast. What you are witnessing are the early stages of what is referred to as the Bubba Effect...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7quvx1GPgNU

Yea remember when Beck warned about it and everyone mocked him over it! Well it's coming to fruition now! Regardless of the true issue at hand whether one has broken the law or not people are so fed up they will come to another's aid to defend them. When this footage goes viral, and more like is to come, you can be sure the call to arms out already by citizen patriots is going to increase where the numbers will double if not triple. If a shot is fired by the feds be prepared for a conflict, the people of this nation are completely fed up with govt violations in every aspect of our lives and will not allow another Waco or Ruby Ridge.

The only advice I can give those rushing to support the Cliven Bundy and his family is be careful and have the law on your side. Do not keep the govt stormtroopers the edge, you have to be one step ahead of them. Keep cool use your heads, the protestors  in this video won this battle running the rangers out without any violence on their part! There is a right way to do this but REMEMBER the Battle of Athens http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwuZ-mT8eNLDG0hzu2mEyCr8lml4av1e_


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KEYWORDS: abuseofpower; blm; bubbaeffect; bundy; clivenbundy
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1 posted on 04/10/2014 5:13:12 AM PDT by SavingtheRepublic.com
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To: SavingtheRepublic.com

Watching videos from there and its not looking good. Mention of militias heading there. Can’t confirm for sure.


2 posted on 04/10/2014 5:32:21 AM PDT by Wilum (Never loaded a nuke I didn't like)
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To: SavingtheRepublic.com

Waco and Oklahoma City helped Clinton in the polls. Obama is setting up his own mass murder. Watch for the demonization of the Bundys as nutcases, religious kooks, etc.


3 posted on 04/10/2014 5:33:25 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: SavingtheRepublic.com

There are YouTube recordings (that the owner, Google, has not yet been given orders under Obama to be squelched), of militias enroute, YouTube being what it is.


4 posted on 04/10/2014 5:37:22 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: SavingtheRepublic.com

How many Occutards got tased?


5 posted on 04/10/2014 5:39:18 AM PDT by Ancient Man
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To: SavingtheRepublic.com
Regarding the cattleman in Nevada --Ann Barnhardt

"I would strongly discourage you all from hitching your cart to this particular horse. While I have all manner of criticisms of the BLM and certainly of thuggish FEDGOV tactics, it is essential that one pick one’s battles very carefully, and this is NOT a good battle to pick. The guy in question has been grazing his cattle at essentially zero feed cost for upwards of twenty years (well, THAT makes the cattle business easier, doesn’t it!) because he stopped paying the BLM any lease charges. Again, we can debate all manner of things including the ridiculous rules about closing land to grazing in order to “protect” lizards or prairie chickens or whatever the fake “endangered species” du jour is, and certainly we can debate the existence of the BLM itself, but there is no free lunch; everyone else pays to graze. This guy is claiming, as I understand it, some grandfathered right to the land through the Mormon cult (again, BIG red flag), but I don’t buy it. This situation stinks all around to my refined sniffer, and I would NOT die on this hill. Since so many have asked, that is my read. Just be careful with this one."

6 posted on 04/10/2014 5:41:04 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket)
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To: SavingtheRepublic.com

The Bureau of Land Management (BLM) is seeking public comment on a programmatic environmental impact statement (PEIS) and possible land use plan amendments for the allocation of oil shale and tar sands resources.

http://www.blm.gov/wy/st/en/info/news_room/2011/april/14hdd-peis.html

The Bureau of Land Management is ran by Neil Kornze. He is a man who has ties with Harry Reid, mining and solar power. He had the support of the League of Conservative Voters and the Defenders of Wildlife. This is the man who is tasked with managing millions of acres of government land and resources on these lands owned by the tax payers.

Bureau of Land Management head

Here is who Barack Obama chose to lead the Bureau of Land Management.

Since March 1, 2013, Neil Kornze has been leading the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) as the agency’s Principal Deputy Director. Kornze oversees the agency’s management of more than 245 million acres of public land nationwide.

Prior to serving in his current role, Kornze was the BLM’s Acting Deputy Director for Policy and Programs starting in October 2011. Kornze joined the organization in January 2011 as a Senior Advisor to the Director. In these roles, he worked on a broad range of issues, including renewable and conventional energy development, transmission siting, and conservation policy.

Kornze was a key player in the development of the Western Solar Plan and the agency’s successful authorization of more than 10,000 megawatts of renewable energy, surpassing a congressionally-established goal 3 years ahead of schedule. He has also been active in tribal consultation, especially as it relates to oil and gas and renewable energy development.

Before coming to the BLM, Kornze worked as a Senior Policy Advisor to U.S. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada. In his work for Senator Reid, which spanned from early 2003 to early 2011, he worked on a variety of public lands issues, including renewable energy development, mining, water, outdoor recreation, rural development, and wildlife. Kornze has also served as an international election observer in Macedonia, the Ukraine, and Georgia, and he is co-author of an article in “The Oxford Companion to American Law.”

Raised in Elko, Nevada, Kornze is a Phi Beta Kappa graduate with a degree in Politics from Whitman College in Walla Walla, Washington. He earned a master’s degree in International Relations at the London School of Economics.

Someone who has no qualifications, other than political connections, seems to have put the Bureau of Land Management in a position to anger a lot of people, while they cattle rustle.

- See more at: http://misguidedchildren.com/domestic-affairs/2014/04/who-runs-the-bureau-of-land-management/18559#sthash.OjmWUMM3.dpuf


7 posted on 04/10/2014 5:46:33 AM PDT by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; All

I totally agree with your post. People are fed up and looking for the “Lexington” moment to start this thing but this is not the right fight to pick. This guy was freeloading for 25 years. Got caught and now is raising a stink. I worry because as I said people are looking to fight back. We are sick and tied of government overreach and want a cause to support. This ain’t it IMO.


8 posted on 04/10/2014 5:47:41 AM PDT by prof.h.mandingo (Buck v. Bell (1927) An idea whose time has come (for extreme liberalism))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

A lot of suppositions in Ms. Barnhardt’s assesment. Trying to make a claim he is the only one is specious at best. This is open range. I see the sign that the location is 9 miles from Mesquite. Have you or Ms. Barnhardt ever been to the area around Mesquite?


9 posted on 04/10/2014 5:49:00 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: SavingtheRepublic.com

They were lucky the Feds did not fire into them.


10 posted on 04/10/2014 5:51:30 AM PDT by sport
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To: SavingtheRepublic.com

Has anyone seen Lon Horiuchi yet?

That’s when you have to start worrying.


11 posted on 04/10/2014 5:52:48 AM PDT by x1stcav ("The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.")
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To: SavingtheRepublic.com
This all started over the govt taking land in 1993 . . .

No.

The land has belonged to the federal government since 1848, when it was acquired under the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo.

From 1848 until passage of the Taylor Grazing Act of 1934, the federal government allowed free grazing on federal open range. The Taylor Grazing Act provided for grazing permits within the grazing districts established under the act. The permits required the payment of grazing fees.

The Taylor Grazing Act was subsequently pre-empted by the Federal Land Policy and Management Act of 1976, which continued to provide for grazing fees.

The grazing contracts have a ten-year term.

Nevada open-range law specifically recognizes federal grazing contract provisions as Nevada law.

From 1934 to 1993, the Bundy family had a grazing contract with the federal government and paid the grazing fee.

In 1993, Clive Bundy refused to sign a new grazing agreement with the BLM because the new agreement limited the number of cattle on the allotment (due to the presence of an endangered species of tortoise) and increased the grazing fee.

Bundy has not paid the grazing fee required by both federal and state law since 1993.

Bundy has lost every court case regarding his claimed right to use the BLM property to graze his cattle. He was first ordered by a federal court to remove his cattle in 1998.

The BLM is removing his cattle as 'trespassing cattle' pursuant to a third federal court order.

As we've now come to expect, the federal government has over-reacted in its display of force.

12 posted on 04/10/2014 6:00:26 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (Is it solipsistic in here, or is it just me?)
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To: Arthur McGowan
>>Waco and Oklahoma City helped Clinton in the polls.<<

How on earth could the murder of woman and children help anyone? Wow! Just wow.

The Waco incident could have been handled without either side getting hurt, but no, the boy’z in black just can't wait to show off their toy's and tactics.

13 posted on 04/10/2014 6:02:45 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Agree. Although I don't like the heavy handed gov reaction, this guy appears to be a high dollar squatter.
14 posted on 04/10/2014 6:03:40 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama phones= Bread and circuits.)
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To: SavingtheRepublic.com

Don’t mess with Vets.


15 posted on 04/10/2014 6:13:28 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: maine yankee

So in other words, Ried needs some more BLM land to develop.

That is what he did around Vegas. He got the feds to turn over vast areas of BLM land for development and then got kickbacks on each lot sold by the developer.

That is how he got rich.


16 posted on 04/10/2014 6:23:52 AM PDT by crz
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To: SavingtheRepublic.com

The governor should call out the Nevada National Guard. Until the feds federalize those troops and send them home,, the governor any local sheriff should deputize every law-abiding citizen and tell them to arm themselves. Local and in state officials would outnumber the feds 10 to 1. The governor should then go down there on horseback and tell the federal government to get out of the state!


17 posted on 04/10/2014 6:26:40 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: SavingtheRepublic.com
Grazing animals actually prevent desertification. Its been proven, over and over.

Its amazing how often endangered animals are found in commonly used areas and then once protected, they go extinct there.

I'm reminded of “naturalists” here in North Florida protesting that the Navy had to close a bombing range, because it had a very high concentration of tortoises. So with the range being heavily used for 50 years, how did the concentration get so high if the bombing was bad for the tortoises?

Same here. The cattle have been grazing the land for 140 years, so are they harmful or helpful?

18 posted on 04/10/2014 6:29:21 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Scoutmaster

I’m curious about something, and you seem to be up to speed on these matters.

Where I grew up (Missouri), state law required landowners to maintain 50% of common fence lines. Although you were liable for your own livestock, you were not liable for damage if they crossed through the 50% of fence that wasn’t your responsibility, IF the condition of the fencing was deemed inadequate.

What are the rules out west? Do the Feds have any responsibility to fence their property or is it entirely on the owner of the livestock to restrict them?


19 posted on 04/10/2014 6:38:06 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Scoutmaster
the federal government has over-reacted in its display of force

Yep. BLM under Obozo, Booger Eating Bureaucraps.

20 posted on 04/10/2014 6:47:36 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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