Posted on 03/20/2014 8:18:52 AM PDT by kiryandil
FReeper Betty Jane (FR class of '98) writes:
A young man has been summoned to meet with the President of his college, Chattanooga State community for wearing an empty holster. A teacher complained. He has to meet at 2:00 pm. eastern today.
He plans on recording the conversation. He can’t afford a lawyer, and neither can I. He is 22 or 23. He doesn’t belong to any gun rights groups.
Betty Jane
Any laws against recording a two-party conversation in Tennessee?
I slapped it on the banglist so it should get some eyes for you.
I guess I’m dense.
I don’t get it.
Are they afraid the holster is going to grow a gun?
IF I were a person who felt the need to have to wear an empty holster in a state university classroom, I’d NOT carry anything else but a book or a notepad into the classroom. In other words, I’d not have a bag or backpack that could be the subject of whether there was a gun inside of either.
That said, if there is a two-party consent needed to record a meeting, then upon a “No” answer to the question “may I record?” I would immediately ask if I may have a witness present (one of my choosing - prearranged).
Just my two cents.
I can’t give any advice other than to tell him to not let them intimidate him which is probably what they’ll try to do.
Ask specifically what law or regulation was broken? That’s right, none. It’s a piece of leather/plastic/whatever.
Are hands banned? They can hold a gun as well. How about pockets?
Don’t be a smart-ass but don’t let them bully. I would also advise not to do the ole “come in, sit down” in front of a desk. Remain standing at Parade rest, no slouching. Chances are the president and the pant wetting teacher will be on one side. Don’t play the intimidation game.
NOW YOU KNOW the dire outcomes of Global Warming & Climate Change:
They cause empty holsters to grow new guns.
Betcha the wittle instructor skit his/her little skanties when "confronted" (HORRORS!!!) with the fecund gun-womb...
He should ask the president/dean:
1) Is the holster a weapon?
2) Is the holster illegal in Tennessee?
3) What’s the problem?
I can’t give any advice other than to tell him to not let them intimidate him which is probably what they’ll try to do.
Ask specifically what law or regulation was broken? That’s right, none. It’s a piece of leather/plastic/whatever.
Are hands banned? They can hold a gun as well. How about pockets?
Don’t be a smart-ass but don’t let them bully. I would also advise not to do the ole “come in, sit down” in front of a desk. Remain standing at Parade rest, no slouching. Chances are the president and the pant wetting teacher will be on one side. Don’t play the intimidation game.
Consider that one stolen.
IF I were a person who felt the need to have to wear an empty holster in a state university classroom, I’d NOT carry anything else but a book or a notepad into the classroom. In other words, I’d not have a bag or backpack that could be the subject of whether there was a gun inside of either.
That said, if there is a two-party consent needed to record a meeting, then upon a “No” answer to the question “may I record?” I would immediately ask if I may have a witness present (one of my choosing - prearranged).
Just my two cents.
He should ask the president/dean:
1) Is the holster a weapon?
2) Is the holster illegal in Tennessee?
3) What’s the problem?
I'd have them contact Students for Concealed Carry ASAP. (He probably is already a member of his local chapter, or at least is participating in the ConcealedCampus.org protest on his own.
Go to Open Carry .org and post the issue in the TN forum. You will more than likely get a quick response: http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/forum.php
LOL! I still have the touch. :-)
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You can contact the NRA via phone at: NRA Member Programs 1-800-672-3888
Second Amendment Litigation and The Institute for Legislative Action (ILA) is the lobbying arm of the NRA ~ is where I'd start.
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