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Texas court rules that police may introduce illegally gathered evidence at trial
Coach is Right ^ | 3/15/14 | Doug Book

Posted on 03/15/2014 9:01:05 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax

Texas prosecutors are applauding a decision by the State Court of Criminal Appeals which provides police officers a second chance to present evidence which has been gathered contrary to Texas law and the 4th Amendment. The ruling literally offers law enforcement a “do-over;” an opportunity to secure a search warrant AFTER a home has been illegally searched and AFTER evidence has been improperly obtained.

In 2010, police in Parker County, Texas received a call from a confidential informant (CI) who claimed that Fred Wehrenberg and a number of associates “were fixin’” to cook meth. Hours after the call–at 12:30 A.M the following day–police entered the Wehrenberg home without a warrant and against the wishes of Wehrenberg. Police handcuffed all of the occupants, held them in the front yard and proceeded to perform what the officers described as a “protective sweep” of the residence. An hour and a half later, after finding no meth being made on the premises, police prepared a...

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TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: 4thamendment; evidence; legal; wehrenberg
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To: cripplecreek
Yeah screw that pesky 400 year old constitution. /s

LOL, sadly...

61 posted on 03/15/2014 10:11:51 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: FredZarguna

I would not bet on it.


62 posted on 03/15/2014 10:12:06 AM PDT by sport
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To: KrisKrinkle
I’d rather see the evidence used and those in law enforcement who violated the constitution[sic] punished appropriately.

That was the rule before the 1920's, which came to us by way of the Common Law; and it doesn't work.

63 posted on 03/15/2014 10:15:28 AM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: sagar

That is fine until you are the “criminal”.


64 posted on 03/15/2014 10:15:44 AM PDT by sport
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To: tomkat

Correct! It may take them a while, but they will get there.


65 posted on 03/15/2014 10:17:22 AM PDT by sport
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To: Lazamataz
I'm with you! In fact, warrants are soooo 18th-century!

Fie! You limp-wristed sissy libtard!

Warrantless searches, and those pesky indictments and trials are so Twentieth Century.

The police should just be able to select the houses in which they suspect criminal activity and then kill all the inhabitants with Predator Drones.

I can't believe I've lived to see the day when FReepers would be against that.

66 posted on 03/15/2014 10:21:44 AM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: FerociousRabbit
Yeah. The leftist Freeper cell of people most of whom have been here ten years longer than you have.

Right.

67 posted on 03/15/2014 10:22:50 AM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: dangus
On the other hand, for all I know the cops were absolutely acting in bad faith.

I don't know if they were (I don't know what was in their hearts), but it appears they lied to the judge to get the warrant. They failed to tell him they were holding the suspects and that they had already searched the premises. They said after the first search, the had found nothing (I don't believe that), then magically found what they must have seen in the earlier search (the pseudoephedren and batteries, components of a meth lab).

Lying to a judge about what they observed or what they were told in order to get a warrant (a lie of omission is still a lie) is about as poisoned a root as you can get. I can't believe so many think that's hunky-dory.

68 posted on 03/15/2014 10:23:49 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Marcella

The dissent is correct, and the majority is mistaken. The exigent circumstances required for the application of pertinent Federal case law did not obtain. This ruling is not going to survive five minutes in a Federal Court.


69 posted on 03/15/2014 10:26:48 AM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: coloradan
“Prosecutors applaud decision allowing police to break law.”

What is wrong with this picture?

Here's an even more puzzling picture:

“FReepers applaud decision allowing police to break law.”

OK, OK, that's inaccurate.

“[alleged] FReepers applaud decision allowing police to break law.”

70 posted on 03/15/2014 10:29:09 AM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: freedomfiter2

“What would an appropriate punishment for government employees who violate the Constitutional rights of citizens?”

Good question. (And of course one definition of a “good question” is: A question for which one does not have a good answer.)

I think it would have to depend on the circumstances, not just of the crime but of the violation. It could range from monetary penalties to time off without pay to forced retirement to firing to jail time. But again: “Yeah, I know...like that’s going to happen.”


71 posted on 03/15/2014 10:32:52 AM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

ping


72 posted on 03/15/2014 10:36:14 AM PDT by CriticalJ (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.. But then I repeat myself. MT)
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To: FerociousRabbit; maggief; hoosiermama; TigersEye; penelopesire; ConservativeMan55; ...

You said “And they have popped up in droves over the past few days even though they have been Freepers for years...

I am beginning to think they are a leftist sleeper cell that infiltrated the site years ago and it has suddenly been activated.”

I have been on this board for many years and I agree 100% I see them and note there names. If you want to see them all in one place post a Glenn Beck quote or article.

I do engage at any level. I find information that disputes their point and say nothing. Drives them nuts.


73 posted on 03/15/2014 10:37:10 AM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: Oldpuppymax

It is the entire court system in this country that has destroyed the constitution and initiated the conditions necessary to end this country. As long as the courts have the power to corrupt then we are doomed.


74 posted on 03/15/2014 10:37:29 AM PDT by Revel
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To: sagar
So you're okay with police forcibly invading your home or property without a warrant, finding (or planting) whatever they want, then sitting in your home for several hours while they wait for an actual warrant to be issued, and THEN arresting you?

You must enjoy the flavor of jackboot on your tongue.

75 posted on 03/15/2014 10:39:40 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

“I don’t see this ruling surviving federal court scrutiny...”

Me neither. If the tip from the informer wasn’t enough for them to get a warrant, too bad.

Otherwise what prevents them from just searching any place at random and getting a warrant if and when they find something?


76 posted on 03/15/2014 10:39:40 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: Lazamataz

What they’re going to find is my husband and me on the other side of the door loaded for bear.

Sure, we’ll die...but we’ll take some of those jackboots with us.

We’ve lived long enough to not give a rat’s a$$.


77 posted on 03/15/2014 10:49:23 AM PDT by bimboeruption ("We Recognize No Sovereign But God, And No King But Jesus!" - John Adams & John Hancock)
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To: centurion316

And those on Free Republic are applauding them.


78 posted on 03/15/2014 10:57:20 AM PDT by sport
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To: FredZarguna
Fie! You limp-wristed sissy libtard! Warrantless searches, and those pesky indictments and trials are so Twentieth Century. The police should just be able to select the houses in which they suspect criminal activity and then kill all the inhabitants with Predator Drones. I can't believe I've lived to see the day when FReepers would be against that.

NO! I disagree! How will we torture the criminal suspects? A QUICK DEATH IS TOO GOOD FOR THEM! We need to be able to slowly lower them into a vat of acid and pepper spray, while mutilating their genitals!

Don't tell me you are against slow torture before a trial! I can't believe I've lived to see the day when FReepers would be against that.

79 posted on 03/15/2014 10:57:45 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Yes,,, and Texas is such a free state. /s


80 posted on 03/15/2014 11:00:03 AM PDT by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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