Posted on 01/22/2014 12:48:02 PM PST by iontheball
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Ring is either from Indonesia, or an Indonesian design “parang rusak”. Design worn by royalty on state occasions.
Has African “Elephant- hair” design mixed in.
0 had it in ‘81; picture from Occidental days shows the same one.
Indonesian men wear wedding ring on right hand ring finger, not the left.
PBS Frontline video “The Choice 2012” has a view of it.
http://video.pbs.org/video/2288869682
New Yorker mag; link is to WND article with pics:
http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/obamas-ring-there-is-no-god-but-allah/
FR topic Jodi Kantor NY Times article; see this post and the replies to it:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2373211/posts?page=101#101
To: Candor7
The design on his ring is parang rusak. As you can see from this statement, he saw himself as royalty even in his marriage. Parang rusak is a Javanese batik design and is important in their culture.
“In weddings throughout Central Java, the patterns of sidomukti, sidoluhur, sidoasih, sidomulyo, wirasat and truntum are used to bless newly married couples and their parents.
The rulers of Yogyakarta and Surakarta Palaces always use prescribed patterns like the parang design.”
101 posted on Fri 30 Oct 2009 01:18:25 PM EDT by imfrmdixie [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 94 | View Replies | Report Abuse]
Snippet from NY Times article: Kantor wrote:
Just before the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. pronounced Barack Obama and Michelle Robinson man and wife on the evening of Oct. 3, 1992, he held their wedding rings –signifying their new, enduring bonds – before the guests at Trinity United Church of Christ. Michelle’s was traditional, but Barack’s was an intricate gold design from Indonesia, where he had lived as a boy.”
Googled parang rusak in ‘phrase’ and ‘meaning’ in word & got this:
http://www.winotosastro.com/batik/batikyogya.html
Thanks
All you’ve posted makes sense to me. What about you two?
See images at link above of Google Images
It's the BATIK design that Alice Dewey wore on her recent visit to the Sultan of Jakarta:
Alice Dewey King Jogja wait in the waiting room at the Yellow House in the palace complex. He was wearing a batik parang one of the best he had since long.
You'll find the source of the image as part of the research on Alice posted by Brown Deer, TRANSLATED FROM INDONESIAN
Revealed: Inilah Wanita di Balik Bintang Mahaputera untuk Ibu Obama
>> You are looking for SUBUD in connection with the p.o.t.u.s. or his immediate circle, is that right?
Or anyone connected with the case.
THEN I SUGGEST YOU START HERE:
http://www.subud-sica.org/index.php?hkat=7&ukat=24
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Parang is a design for BATIK FABRIC. There are many parang designs, of which rusak is but one.
Has African “Elephant- hair” design mixed in.
A ring is a ring, Batik is a FABRIC. I can't imagine why an Indonesian fabric design would include an african elephant-hair element.
>>> •. She had seem him wearing women’s clothing and named the cult movie they all went repeatedly to see <<<
I’m guessing that the movie is The Rocky Horror Picture Show, starring Tim Roth as a transsexual transvestite from Transylvania. Audiences would dress up as their favorite characters, and bring props like toast, and throw the toast at the screen in unison, when the right cue happened (someone mentioning the word toast, or asking for toast, and would talk back to the characters on screen in unison.
A scene where a doorbell is rung and a servant opens the door to discover a stranded couple requesting to use the phone, would be met by a fusillade from the audience in sync. shouting “castles don’t have phones” and other such like replies taking place throughout the movie. It was an inside joke for everyone participating versus first time viewers that hadn’t a clue.
I took a date and had only a vague idea something happened between the audience and the “screen”. The whole transvestite thing didn’t do much for me. I wore a trench coat and smuggled in a six pack of Pabst Blue Ribbon beer. That was quite an accomplishment in and of itself.
The movie usually ran at midnight when that sort of trend was in it’s infancy. No self respecting teenage boy or young adult male would don the clothes of a woman so as to be in sync with the transvestite character; at least not where I came from in the Midwest. I’m guessing this to be around 1977-1978 time frame; possibly 1979 at the very latest. The fad had already hit the big cities, coming to middle America maybe 1, 2 or 3 years later. So... in it’s hey day, just guessing here- a 1974-1975 time frame at the earliest. This is all from memory. A little research will define the release time frame more accurately.
Here it is-
From wiki
The Rocky Horror Picture Show is a 1975 British musical comedy horror film and an adaptation of The Rocky Horror Show, a musical stage play, book, music, and lyrics by Richard O’Brien, who appears in the film as Riff Raff. Directed by Jim Sharman from a screenplay by Sharman and O’Brien, the production is a humorous tribute to the science fiction and horror B movies of the late 1940s through early 1970s. It stars Tim Curry, Susan Sarandon and Barry Bostwick along with cast members from the original Kings Road production presented at the Royal Court Theatre, London, in 1973.
CORRECTION
I misidentified Tim Curry as Tim Roth.
See if you can identify the character most likely to be emulated by the future president of the United States of America, and commander in chief of the world's most powerful military.
Madame Speaker, I now yield back the balance of my time.
Might need some vodka to go along with that first cup of freeper coffee this morning eh? Eyewash anyone?
Watch the second video and see the two pictures that brought this discussion on!
>>> Watch the second video and see the two pictures that brought this discussion on! <<<
Reference please?
Got it- M.M.P.
>>> Watch the second video and see the two pictures that brought this discussion on! <<<
The two pictures smack of a photo shopped hoax. The depicted age of Barry is wrong to start with.
The reference by MMP attesting to seeing Barry in female attire, dressed for audience participation at the movie- TRHPS, doesn’t seem like too much of a stretch though.
One might chalk it up to youthful indiscretions. Of course, it’s a pattern of indiscretions with Barry. The choice of clothing and the character Barry selected to emulate, is revealing to say the least, providing things are what MMP says they are, eh?
A reminder of the three unsolved murders (in a 40 day time period), to members of the same church that the next president of the United States attended, is magnitudes beyond disconcerting.
Can you imagine if the same thing happened to members of the church that Sarah Palin attended, or the church that George W. Bush attended?
Any who- don’t want to get brought up on thread hijacking charges... so what is the topic assignment again?
You are correct the pictures are a hoax. She doesn’t even claim to seeing him in that exact outfit. She just went into discussion of her beach buddies attending the movie together and actually seeing O in a. Similar outfit.
We’re in the back room so that all aspects of the leads can be followed including material that jr prefers to keep off public threads. The nuts and the squirrels
We are looking however into any connection from O family to the cult FU-D belonged to. Lots of dots but not much of a connection.
•The person who started the group in HI presented to the UU church and was connected to E-W group.
• Both of which we know the family had connections
• Soetoro was a member of the royal family
• The head of Indonesian government was a member of cult
• SADO employed several members of the group to help teach when she was teaching English in the government school
•. The group encourages if not demands a name change at initial opening
•. Both BHO and SADO used various names at various stages of their life
•. Women of the group were encouraged to wear skirts not slacks
•. Have we ever seen the women ( except MO in slacks). Am working on that one. ;-). Stre————etch
Not to mention all the connections to the UN American culture etc
Bottom line we never know when - where a slip may have happened before the public was aware of su BUD
Doc. Manning has the fight of a lion. I wish he’d be just a tad more discerning in his efforts.
FWIW- I didn’t draw any conclusion that MMP was tied to the images.
Just keeping it real here where good work is being done. Thanks for the links from the both of you.
Got it!
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