Posted on 01/22/2014 12:48:02 PM PST by iontheball
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I read it and wept:
http://www.ninevehsoft.com/fiorina.htm
When Arabs and Islam swept through the Middle East in 630 A.D., they encountered 600 years of Assyrian Christian civilization, with a rich heritage, a highly developed culture, and advanced learning institutions. It is this civilization that became the foundation of the Arab civilization.
You state, “Its astronomers looked into the heavens, named the stars, and paved the way for space travel and exploration.” This is a bit melodramatic. In fact, the astronomers you refer to were not Arabs but Chaldeans and Babylonians (of present day south-Iraq), who for millennia were known as astronomers and astrologers, and who were forcibly Arabized and Islamized — so rapidly that by 750 A.D. they had disappeared completely.
that’s just an excerpt
That too
Once had a prof ask us to analyze two piece of music. One was simple. One had extreme levels of complex structure. They were both written by young composers. Both the same age when composed.
Easy one by Mozart. Other by Lenin Mc Carthney. Last thing he said as we were dismissed for the year. “When historian look back at the 20th century The Beatles will be the classic of the times. !”
http://www.entitysource.com/details/entity/hi_75525/paradise-city-lounge-inc
http://www.legalmetric.com/cases/copyright/hid/hid_194cv00283.html
It appears a business she was running/managing was sued. Lots of legal manipulations and changes of judge in the middle and start agains. Judge denies the plaintiff relief from paying their own legal fees and A declare bankruptcy so no garnishment from her bank account. So plaintiff goes after another facet of business ( possibly owner of building). He ends up paying under $100,000 total. Don’t see it as any indication of shady character more than likely poor business choices
She admits on Manning video of doing lots of hanging out with typical teen behavior on Waikiki. Where she knew 0 from. Had a working knowledge of the drugs used during the time and knew several in the gay community
So that is what she was referring to about her young life. Records were in 90’s she’s younger than him so would have been in her twenties
Well guess in that wild life she ran into 0. She knew what was happening at the beach parties !
Knew the apartment building his grandparents lived in. Not a good area of town even then. Walk up. Wondered how faamily living at that level could afford the private school. Wild highlander is it you that has found the info on Maddy s boss or Mag. BD might find it interested
She said she wouldn’t have been as critical of him if she thought he’d changed. She now states she’s a Christian and has strong convictions
Thirst for truth...
Last year I read “Crimes Against India” and it was so horrific I could only read 5 pages a day. Well researched and based on much contemporaneous documents.
Islam started in butchery, looting, rapine, torture,forcible “conversion”, genocide and lies and has continued nonstop ever since.
A dear friend of mine worked with Daniel Pearl ( they changed his assignment at last moment or he woukd have been with him) Their mutual friend just published this.
http://www.washingtonian.com/projects/KSM/index.html
Actually made me physically ill to read.
And now back to our previously scheduled program. Er research
Grown.
This I got out of her interviews
o was a manipulative liar even then
. Grandparents apt may have been on too floor but it certainly wasn’t the penthouse written about in 08 era articles
. She had seem him wearing women’s clothing and named the cult movie they all went repeatedly to see
others know but for whatever reason are currently keeping quiet
she witnessed his use of drugs and his bragging of non-popular added drugs
. She knew who he hung with and who was who on the beach
As to her past. If she’d been a church choir member and a goodie two shoe she’d never witness this side of 0
The converse of that is if he’d been behaving himself their paths wouldn’t have crossed either
I will read tomorrow.
People tolerating evil means assisting it. Not understanding the great evil of Islam has got us into this situation. Then people who just don’t know - they trust the authorities who should be warning them - suffer.
More info available on the ring :D
Otoh theres a need for the visual and a need to follow throu all hunches.
* You are looking for SUBUD in connection with the p.o.t.u.s. or his immediate circle, is that right? There are 236,000 references to SUBUD on Google, are you planning to check them all, or are you using keywords such as ‘Subud + obama’ or Subud + Stanley Ann Dunham ? etc
For example
The other night I notice my fathers ring. It had belonged to his dad and not only holds much sentimental value but signifies his membership in an organization
That made me think of Os ring does any of those criteria fit it
* you are assuming the ring has some major significance?
What we knew
He wore it on his wedding finger
* That’s where a lot of europeans wear a dress ring, so there are many millions of people who would not find that unusual. Maybe he belongs to a sect of some cult that doesn’t have a tradition of wearing a wedding ring at all.
Started wearing it after coming back from Indonesia
*I think the first time we see it is when he was at Occidental.
Its made of good
He treasures it
So I started to look if it had any connection to a group meaning
Was told by two in authority it has some incantation to Alan on it
* You must mean allah. It’s not. They are just loops. I’ll post the graphic again, showing what the loops are, if you want to see it again.
Fred says its an African hair ring and parts of it resemble rings of that style but not all of it
*African-elephant hair rings are made from the hair of the tail of an elephant. They are made by hand, they are not mass-produced, each one is different. They are as different as the creative hand of the person who makes it.
Id been looking at the Bali snake rings because hed visited that area of the world even though Africa would be logical too
*He was in Indonesia and maybe Bali which is part of Indonesia, when he was in grade school. Are there elephants in Bali? I don’t think so. Do they sell african artifacts in Bali? I don’t think so. Where might you buy an african elephant hair ring? Maybe in Africa? Does that maybe indicate that he went to Africa while he was at Occidental? It sure does. Kenya newspapers report he was there in 1983. Does that surprise you?
Its design is unique so i Placed gold in her dissertation to see if she had worked with any goldsmith. She had
*She had what? Worked with a goldsmith? That’s possible, she collected Indonesian artifacts.
Fred send me the Chinese life symbol that the Subud sign is patterned after ( much appreciated)
*That was to illustrate that anything that was connected to islam, as Subud is a sufi-offshoot, any symbol used by that cult would be plagiarized from another culture.
BUT knowing that it was created just for him IMO Im not content to think its just an elephant hair ring although part of it may mimic that. Im still searching to find other sources for the remaining parts of ring.
* You’ll go blind in the attempt. There are no other parts. It’s an african-elephant hair ring made in gold. The goldsmith started off with a long, thin strand of gold and used it just as he would have, if it were a length of elephant hair.
( every society has drums string instruments and wind and use circles in their art)
* And someone expert in the field, can usually identify their origin, the culture it came from.
Sorry Fred this may be
1+1= 11
*Only if you believe in magic and fairies at the bottom of the garden.
Just as you finally figured out the picture was taken In HI
Im still looking at those pictures
*At least I had something to work with. I had the images. So that when it dawned on me what must have happened, all I had to do was show them. If I was wrong, and someone spotted it, they could tell me. You have nothing tangible. You’re stuck with two objects that are quite meaningless. A ring, and a chinese symbol, and the name of a cult.
Subud was brought to Honolulu by Feldman in 1967. He attended the Unitarian Church which practised inter-fath outreach. As a professor at the university be would have come into contact with Alice Dewey, who came to Hawaii in 1962. Feldman also refers to muslims he met at the East West Centre. That’s your mother-lode, if there is one.
Now you’re back in the territory where this whole thing started. With Loretta (Deliana) Fuddy, the Hawaii Director of Health ... the only person we know who maintains she actually touched the holy grail of birth documents...ex Chair of Subud, and may she meditate in peace now, or speak in tongues - whatever it is they do. I don’t really think anyone did her any harm, but zero does have the luck of the devil.
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