Posted on 01/16/2014 8:03:31 AM PST by KeyLargo
ILLINOIS STATE RIFLE ASSOCIATION
INFORMATIONAL ALERT
WHAT TO DO ABOUT THOSE PESKY “NO-GUNS” SIGNS
As you may know, the concealed carry law enacted last year ironically includes provisions that will greatly impede your ability to defend yourself against violent criminals. Among these impediments to self defense is a provision allowing private property owners to prohibit concealed firearms on their property. The law requires such property owners to post government-approved “no guns allowed” signs on property entrances.
As implementation of concealed carry goes forward, more and more of these “no guns allowed” signs will be springing up in businesses across Illinois. Although law-abiding firearm owners are offended by such signs, most of us accept that private property owners are free to limit access to their property as they see fit. Nonetheless, the placement of such signs poses some serious public policy implications to those who honor free exercise of basic human rights.
In practical terms, the official “no guns allowed” sign actually declares, “No Self Defense Permitted Beyond this Point.” Thus, a property owner who posts a “no guns allowed” sign is telling you point blank, “I don’t care if you and your family are in danger, I will not allow you to defend yourself.” The net effect of the property-owner’s self-righteous indignation is that anyone who enters the posted property unarmed is being set up for violent attack.
The beauty of concealed carry is that only handful of citizens need to be armed in order to protect the greater part of society from harm. This benefit arises out of the fact that would-be criminals are never really sure which citizens around them may be armed. As a result, their criminal urges may be stifled in the interest of not getting shot.
Given the deterrent value of concealed carry, the posting of “no guns allowed” signs openly invites criminals to enter a business to commit mayhem without the fear of facing an armed citizen. Under the concealed carry statute, persons licensed to carry must obey these signs. By their very nature, criminals will not be deterred by a plastic pictogram stuck to a window. Consequently, armed criminals will be absolutely assured that nobody in the establishment is capable of warding off their violent behavior. “No guns allowed” signs give a distinct advantage to those who seek to harm others.
For thugs who may be too shy to perform for an audience, the parking lots of “no guns allowed” establishments would be little more to their liking. It would be a given that anyone leaving such a business would be unarmed and, thus, easy pickings for robbers or rapists. Likewise, these criminals would be free to burglarize cars in the parking lot to harvest guns dutifully left behind by permit holders who enter the antigun business.
All in all, it’s distinctly possible that posting a “no guns allowed” sign makes patronizing a business more dangerous now that concealed carry has been passed than it had been to patronize the same store before the passage of concealed carry.
Quite a few people have contacted ISRA headquarters to report businesses that have posted “no guns allowed” signs. Many of the people ask how they should respond to the posting of such signs. Below are our recommendations.
1. Carrying a concealed firearm in to an establishment bearing an official “no guns allowed” sign is not lawful and should not be attempted.
2. Business owners who post “no guns allowed” signs consider lawful firearm owners to be social outcasts. Therefore, those businesses should be avoided, but not without first hearing how displeased you are with their decision. We recommend that you ask to see the manager and then politely tell him or her that you are a lawful firearm owner and that you disagree with their position on concealed carry. Advise the manager further that, as long as the offensive sign is posted, you will not spend money at their establishment and that you will tell all your friends to avoid doing business with them as well.
3. Reward businesses who allow concealed carry by spending money in their establishments.
4. Remain active in the gun rights movement at a local level.
5. Join the ISRA.
6. Donate to the ISRA so that we may carry on the fight to preserve, protect, and enhance gun rights in the state.
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And in other news.
French Consul Accused of Racism For Advising Citizens To Avoid Walking In Boston’s High Crime Areas After Dark…
Students called the Foreign Ministry’s travel warnings racist, noting they advised French nationals to avoid areas mainly where members of minority groups live.
Advise the business owner that if their patrons are prohibited the means to defend themselves and if the business owners don’t take positive steps to prevent criminals from illegally harming their patrons, then the business owners will be liable if their patrons suffer harm from any criminal acts for which their legal customers are prohibited from defending themselves against.
WIN! Signs coming down at Wal-Mart… UPDATED
January 15, 2014
We’ve seen reports that Wal-Mart is taking down the “No Guns” signage, thanks to gun owners politely contacting them and explaining the confusion the signs were causing. GSL joined with other gun rights groups in encouraging gun owners to make their voices heard and with a little tact and finesse, it seems the signs are coming down as we wanted.
Nice job, everyone!
We will update this as we have a chance to run it down.
UPDATE:
Just got off the phone with Beverly, the district manager Kevin Haney’s assistant.
She confirmed reports we’ve read and heard that Wal-Mart has reversed itself and will be removing the “No Guns” (for on-duty staff and vendors) signage from all of the Illinois stores in the coming days.
Kevin got the initial email from corporate on their decision on this earlier today, because his eight stores in central Illinois generated the most comments and concerns to corporate of any district in Illinois.
Kudos to all of you, right in the heart of Guns Save Life territory, for getting involved to get Wal-Mart to make the right decision to pull the signs.
Beverly did say that corporate legal people were working on the language of the final order to remove the signs but that should be a done deal by the end of the week at the latest and signs should start coming down very shortly after that.
Again, fabulous work, folks!
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2 comments on “WIN! Signs coming down at Wal-Mart… UPDATED”
http://www.gunssavelife.com/?p=10506
Armed citizen truncates crazed man’s mass attack
January 15, 2014
Once again, we see that the only thing that stops a bad person with evil in their heart is a good guy with a gun.
In Portland, a disgruntled man with no shortage of previous arrests thought he was going to “show them” after getting turned away from admission for being an obnoxious jerk. He returned wearing a Halloween mask and carrying a gun and opened fire.
http://www.gunssavelife.com/?p=10503
Thank you for the good new KeyLargo, Guns up!
And in other news:
‘In America, How Does Such a Thing Happen?’
Jan. 15, 2014 4:49pm Jason Howerton
Related:
#2A
On the surface, John Filippidis seems to be just the kind of responsible gun owner who should carry a concealed firearm. He’s a family man, small business owner and taxpayer who takes the responsibility of gun ownership seriously.
Those Politically Correct Solutions can kill you.
January 16, 2014 Miguel G
A so-called panic button, which is designed to alert a school’s main office to a classroom emergency, reportedly didn’t work after a Key Largo School teacher pushed his repeatedly while a third-grader threatened to shoot and stab his classmates last week.
The threat was apparently just that, and the boy did not have a weapon. But the school’s reaction to the situation sparked outrage among concerned parents who say they were never informed about the incident until after a child told his parents and that couple posted it on Facebook several days later.
via Classroom panic button didn’t work during threat at Key Largo School – Florida Keys – MiamiHerald.com.
One more time: In case of death or grave bodily harm, it is PULL THE TRIGGER, not PUSH THE ALARM BUTTON.
As the Opposition loves to say: “How many more children’s bodies have to fall for the common sense to be exercised?”
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And in other news:
Jan 16, 2014
Harvey Weinstein Wants to Destroy the NRA and Leave Us Unprotected
Posted 4 hours ago by Gary DeMar Filed under 2nd Amendment, Constitution, Crime, Entertainment, Gun Control, History, Liberalism, Low Information Voters, Police Brutality, Politics
Movie producer Harvey Weinstein announced on Howard Stern’s radio show that he wants to destroy the National Rifle Association.
Weinstein told Stern, “I shouldn’t say this, but I’ll tell it to you, Howard, I’m going to make a movie with Meryl Streep, and we’re going to take this head-on. And they’re going to wish they weren’t alive after I’m done with them.”
http://godfatherpolitics.com/14023/harvey-weinstein-wants-destroy-nra-leave-us-unprotected/
And in other news:
NY Gun Control Groups, Pols Double Down on SAFE Act
By Robert Farago on January 16, 2014
Or not (courtesy wivb.com)
How’s that “compromise” thing working out for New York gun owners? A press release (after the jump) from a fanatic of civilian disarmament advocates celebrating the first anniversary reveals that Empire State anti-gunners are looking to “build” on the “historic” NY Secure Ammunition and Firearms Enforcement Act’s (NY SAFE Act) “widely popular provisions.” Specifically, they want to enact MA-style Child Access Prevention (stored guns must be rendered inoperative), Unicorn-based cartridge ID creation (i.e. microstamping), One Gun A Month purchase limits, ten-day waiting period for firearms purchases, immediate firearms confiscation during domestic abuse calls (without due process), a ban on 50-Caliber “Military-Style Sniper Rifles,” requiring gun dealers to call the cops for failed NICS background checks, and background checks for gun dealer employees. Strangely, outright confiscation was not mentioned . . .
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/01/robert-farago/ny-gun-control-groups-pols-double-safe-act/
Walmart continues to exemplify the behavior of successful “big business”. While many excoriate their aggressive business to business practices as heavy handed and unfair, their business model, mission of keeping prices low for customers and bending to the demands of their customers per location is the reason for their continued and unprecedented global success.
They will not be bullied by anyone except customers. They will force all levels of executives to behave and spend in accordance with their mission and have laser like focus on the goals. At the same time, despite what liberals and media would have you believe, they pay comparably fair wages and do take care of their workforce.
Love them or hate them, you have to admire their success and the reasons for it.
Items 5 and 6 were certainly predictable.
Depends on state law - if it’s simple trespass, that’s usually a misdemeanor. Above that, there may be an impact on his license but it’s still dependent on state law.
They started popping up around here when Mississippi affirmed open carry... complaining to the businesses and avoiding them while the signs are displayed have caused some of them to disappear.
Libtards and their “ideas” are hazardous to Children and all other living things.
I’m hoping he has a Matt Damon-like experience from his foray into being anti-fracking with his recent agit-prop film “Promised Land.”
Free as a bird, guilty as sin!! I think I heard that somewhere before, hum, who was that? Oh I know, the commie terrorist who wrote O turd’s books for him.
I am glad to hear the Mississippi has open carry! I hope the Louisiana and Texas get it too. And yes, all responsible gun owners should do most of the shopping at gun friendly businesses.
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