8 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by editor-surveyor
Posted on 12/26/2013 10:12:33 AM PST by Fawn
It is important to note that the only person to “see” and authenticate the long form birth certificate of one President Barrack H. Obama is now dead in a plane crash. Even more controversial is the one that they submitted as truth on the Whitehouse.gov website is 10 layered in Photo Shop and thought to be fake. The conspiracy never seems to die.
Now a whistle blower comes forward and claims she forged Obama’s birth certificate in 1985. She doesn’t just claim that she did the long form, but the short form as well. Both those claims if proven are enough to make people worry about who really is our President.
Funny how this person is not only a family member but also insists she did it for the drug cartels in Mexico. Fast and Furious and the Federal Court ruling to include drugs and child smuggling make more sense now.
You need a hobby (or is this it?)
It had nothing to do with drowning, when we were discussing the original context, re: Fuddy. We were discussing whether she might have become exhausted while in the ocean, and someone offered the fact that she had a vest to try and demonstrate that she wouldn’t have had to tread water or exert herself much in a way that could lead to exhaustion.
Now, if you want to tackle the question of whether she could have drowned, in her specific circumstances, go right ahead, but I’m not really interested in that, since I think it would have been pretty obvious, having water in her lungs, etc.
I’m not the one that spends every day of my life posting nonsense all day.
“Discussion with you is pointless.”
The feeling is mutual, but merry belated Christmas anyhoo.
Live & let live, e-s. That is my approach to most conservatives w whom I may sometimes disagree: live & let live.
I do still very vividly remember you coming onto an evolution thread where the liberals were running roughshod. You smacked them around like Novak Djokovic [highest earning tennis player of ‘13] hitting practice shots. It was a sight to behold. One of my better FR memories; thanks for giving it to me.
She’s gruesome...
“...Escobar, tied to a bed, was murdered by me (PablosWhiteRabbit) with a butcher knife given to me at the scene. Barger had exited the room to question Roberto Escobar, possibly blinded shortly after this event. To insure that Pablo would not survive I bound my hair with several rubber bands and returned to the bed with the knife to cut out his heart eliminating all possibilities of resuscitation. The claims of former President Bill Clinton pursuing him into Colombia, imprisoning, and subsequently murdering Escobar is a complete fabrication and has served only to hide the subversive movements of our enemies...”
Anyway, I’m outa here now. This madwoman’s ravings should never have been posted on FR. Credit goes to Foxbow for being a wake-up to her from the start.
NASA: “EARTH’S BECOMING A GREENER GREENHOUSE”
NASANews Press Release ^ | 9/4/2001 | David E. Steitz, etal
Posted on Wednesday, 5 September 2001 2:12:59 AM by sam_paine
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/516518/posts
POSTED 5 SEPTEMBER 2001
AND ALL THE REPLIES ARE DATED 12 DECEMBER 1969?
that should be 31 DECEMBER 1969.
Not bad to be able to go back into the past by that many years. The fact that the dates in the US are written backwards doesn’t help.
bye bye everyone, call me when there’s a post that’s informative and makes sense - and company that allows discussion without interference from smart-alecks who know it all and refuse to substantiate their POV comments by providing sources to back up their assertions. It’s been an almost total waste of time.
This round unfortunately goes to the individuals whose agenda has always been to drive perfectly reasonable questions into the conspiracy category, and to ridicule the questioners.
Won’t stop the questions, however. Might drive them underground, but stop? Never. Scares some people, doesn’t it?
Nothing’s changed. You don’t know who he is, where he came from nor who his parents might have been, therefor you can’t know what he might be capable of.
The person who was first nominated as Director of the Department of Health but withdrew his name from consideration before confirmation was Dr. Neal Palafox.
He now heads up a cancer treatment program at the University of Hawaiii where he is also a Medical School Professor.
http://www.hawaiireporter.com/palafox-withdrawing-as-state-health-director/123
Hawaii News Now, quoting unnamed sources, reported Palafox was involved in a criminal investigation by state Attorney General David Louie into medical reimbursement fraud.
Louie declined to comment when asked if that was true during a law enforcement press conference today.
Dean Jerris Hedges of the School of Medicine said he was unaware of any pending investigation involving Palafox and did not know why Palafox withdrew from the Health Director post.
That's so classic for Hawaii isn't it? Besmirch his reputation without any evidence. I bet he's relieved and happy he declined the post.
http://birthers.org/misc/virginia.html
the timeline is interesting.
“With the question of the birth certificate sequence numbers still unanswered and with the question of why Governor Abercrombe removed Neal Palafox M.D., without explanation and replaced a MEDICAL DOCTOR with Loretta Fuddy a SOCIAL WORKER as Hawaii’s Director of Health. It is this position that is the guardian of all birth certificates in Hawaii.”
As such, he might well have seen the record of the birth of the child of Tomio and Clara Sunahara on August 4, 1961 at the Wahiawa hospital and the record of her transfer to Kapiolani on the day of her birth, and wondered why her Certificate of Live birth was issued 14 days later, 429 numbers beyond the certificate number for zero, who was supposedly born on the same day...IF he asked how could that possibly have happened, he would certainly have been most unsuitable for the postion of guardian of the birth records of Hawaii...just my POV of course.
If he suspected for one second that the number which ends in 41 belonged to a Wahiawa birth, he wouldn't want to be within a thousand miles of the position he was offered.
Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Think it over.
Sunahara wasn’t given a different BC# until Fuddy was HDOH Director. That’s why she was put in place, and I believe Palafox was asked to resign because he would not agree to switch around the BC#’s of a bunch of 1961 births just because Clarence Dupnik, Eric Holder, or Janet Napolitano said that the “crazy birthers” in Arizona would kill Obama if a BC was not fabricated for him. That is the one instance where a person can get a new BC# - to create a totally fabricated BC for them because law enforcement says it is necessary for their protection. BUT it is only allowable for somebody actually born in Hawaii, and as Abercrombie said, there was no valid HI BC documenting a HI birth for Obama. So Palafox refused to do the dirty deed.
For that he got pushed out by the AG’s office half-claiming that he was under criminal investigation and half-claiming he wasn’t. Letting him know it depended on how he responded. He resigned but made it clear that he didn’t do so for “family reasons”, as Okubo and DelaCruz both publicly claimed.
And then once he was out they DID sic a criminal investigation on him, just to keep him quiet, IIRC.
The only way he will ever be safe is to do what Snowden did.
My question has always been, and always will be, what happened to the birth certificate for the daughter of Tomio and Clara which would have been raised for her on her day of birth at the Wahiawa Hospital on August 4, 1961.
Dr. Palafox is still working in Honolulu and as such, he’s available for subpoena and deposition.
The guardian of the Obama birth record and all birth records in Hawaii is Alvin T. Onaka, Ph.D., the Hawaii Registrar of Vital Statistics. The original Obama birth certificate is stored in Dr. Onaka’s office safe and he’s the person who issues Certified Letters of Verification when judges or government officials want to confirm the birth record.
Dr. Onaka can also be subpoenaed and deposed.
Your scenario doesn’t allow for the substitution of data in place of the child born at Wahiawa by someone who, having read the death announcement on August 8, presents the HDOH with an application for a birth certificate in the name of another child...and the Sunahara document falls into the round receptacle under the desk.
That done, zero has a bc number of a child born at the Wahiawa hospital and it’s out of sequence with Kapiolani births on the same date.
And the child of Tomio and Clara has no bc at all.
I wonder if I will live to see the day...but you're right.
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