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Don’t Buy Karl Rove’s B.S.
Conservative HQ ^ | 11/19/13 | CHQ Staff

Posted on 11/24/2013 2:40:10 PM PST by jimbo123

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According to writers Steve Peoples and Thomas Beaumont, “Groups such as American Crossroads [run by Karl Rove] and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce no longer are willing to risk major investments on hard-line conservatives who embarrassed GOP leaders last fall and rattled the confidence of party donors. Many remain concerned after last month's government shutdown highlighted Republican divisions.”

Jonathan Collegio, a spokesman for Rove’s Super PAC American Crossroads, told Peoples and Beaumont that the reason is, "Unlike previous cycles, we won't be sending good money after substandard candidates with weak campaigns."

This is pure B.S. – the big business-oriented Republican establishment Super PACs didn’t support “hard-line” conservatives in the 2012 election cycle – they were mostly for the losing establishment Republican candidates in the GOP primaries.

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The good news for limited government constitutional conservatives is that the numbers show that the Republican establishment’s money advantage is eroding.

As Michael Patrick Leahy reported in an incisive article for Breitbart, that in the first half of the year the two major Tea Party oriented Super PACs – the Tea Party Patriots Citizens Fund super PAC and the TeaPartyExpress.org PAC raised more than Rove’s three PACs combined.

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In contrast, Leahy reported, “the two leading Tea Party political action committees--the Tea Party Patriots Citizens Fund super PAC and the TeaPartyExpress.org PAC--took in more than $4.1 million combined during the same period. The Tea Party Patriots Citizens Fund raised $2 million and the TeaPartyExpress.org PAC raised $2.1 million. Both groups also had plenty of cash on hand as of June 30, 2013, the end of the reporting period. The Tea Party Patriots Citizens Fund had over $600,000 in cash, and the TeaPartyExpress.org PAC had over $800,000 in cash.”

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To: entropy12

Lousy GOP-e candidates like:

Heather Wilson in New Mexico, Rick Berg in North Dakota, Denny Rehberg in Montana, Tommy Thompson in Wisconsin, George Allen in Virginia and Linda Lingle in Hawaii, Mitt Romney nationally and Connie Mack in Florida ???


21 posted on 11/24/2013 3:36:42 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123


22 posted on 11/24/2013 3:42:38 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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To: entropy12

Obamacare was passed before any of those four candidates ran for office. Oh, and you ignore the SLEW of candidates preferred by the party who have lost the past two cycles, and you also ignore the times the party abandoned or undercut candidates not of their choosing. For example, they backed sore-loser Murkowski as a third partier rather than backing the conservative winner of the primary.

I also wouldn’t call a Delaware Senate race or a race against Majority leader Reid easy wins. The other two definitely should have been.


23 posted on 11/24/2013 3:48:16 PM PST by ilgipper (Obama is proving that very bad ideas can be wrapped up in pretty words)
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To: jimbo123
Yes, defund Rove and let his sponsors know the people think he is a major tool in need of a good retirement.
24 posted on 11/24/2013 3:52:00 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: jimbo123

I was never impressed by GWB and thought the “architect” was as dumb as dirt but they did get a second term after constant attacks by the left. Now we are left with “the architect” and he is clueless and not a true partiot!

Now we are left with GWB and he won’t even defend his sorry record while the democrats are all on board with the left.


25 posted on 11/24/2013 4:39:17 PM PST by jonefab
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To: entropy12
McCain and Romney lost because they were moderate losers and blue-collar conservatives stayed home.

Akin was not even a Tea Party candidate; in fact, he was McCaskill's choice to run against her.

Mourdock, Angle, and O'Donnell received zero support from the GOP establishment despite winning their primaries fair and square. That non-support enabled the Left to caricaturize and belittle them.

I don't care about "winning." I don't want Republicans to "win" because it is their turn to feed at the trough. If the Republican candidate in question does not promote a solid conservative-libertarian agenda, with a healthy dose of populism that appeals to blue-collar workers, me and my vote stays home.

26 posted on 11/24/2013 4:59:47 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2016)
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To: ilgipper

All so called moderate GOP congress critters voted against Obamacare. That is enough for me. My main point is I prefer “politically savvy” candidates who can win. It does not matter who supported them, the Tea Party or GOPe or Koch Brothers. On extremely critical issues such as wealth re-distribution and socialized healthcare, I prefer republicans of all stripes over any current democrats.


27 posted on 11/24/2013 6:28:00 PM PST by entropy12 (Zero thanks to all who stayed home and helped elect Acorn lawyer Zero.)
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To: jimbo123

Fox News needs to fire Rove. He is the only one on the news channels that actually raises money for political candidates...and his candidates are liberals in the GOP.

Fox News keeping Rove means they de facto actively and financially support the GOPe. Rove needs to be canned


28 posted on 11/24/2013 6:47:48 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (2014: Real Conservatives Only, Please)
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To: entropy12
Party over principle eh? No thanks. I only vote for conservatives.

Cruz is da man.

29 posted on 11/24/2013 7:26:05 PM PST by Manic_Episode (Some days...it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps....)
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To: Manic_Episode

bump


30 posted on 11/24/2013 7:26:35 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: entropy12

Conservatives need to stop supporting RINO’s. They refuse to come out and support conservatives and we should return the favor.

Maybe you have missed that there is a civil war within the party, the GOPe is doing its level best to boot out conservatives, and those who win primaries are going to be on their own.


31 posted on 11/24/2013 7:28:27 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: jimbo123

there is NO difference between the two major parties as they stand currently.
Both are simply in it for the money and republicans need to be a different party cause a whole lot of us conservatives have had it with this dem lite shit.
DUMP all rino trash.


32 posted on 11/25/2013 4:22:12 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) ( Hey Rubio, eat pooh pal))
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To: entropy12

Politically savvy is a great term to use. We need candidates with strong communication skills and discipline. Those we’ve lost showed they lacked the discipline to get through the multiple land mines during the general elections. Message discipline is a must have for any of our candidates, regardless of their origins.

I differ a little bit in who not caring who supported our candidates just to get Rs elected. We have to select our best candidates and ones that will deliver in office. Not caring at all what happens after the election has been very costly to our side...abundantly apparent in since 2000. We need to vet and weed out those who will not wilt under the pressures of the party and the Washington environment. No, we can’t treat every race the same or get all perfect conservatives, but we have to weed out those that are hurting the conservative movement while in office.

We have to look at each race individually and make decisions based on the race, the opponent, the district, etc. I will gladly forgo some races in states in the NE where we get wolves in sheep’s clothing and focus on getting strong conservatives in deep red states. I have supported more get along candidates when it meant a higher chance of unseating a Democrat (like I did in my district where there were stronger, more independent conservatives that may or may not have been able to unseat the Dem). What I won’t buy into is that by design a moderate candidate is somehow more electible in most races or more likely to win. The facts don’t bare that out. I also reject the constant attacks on a select few grassroots candidates while ignoring a terrible track record the past 10 years on ‘party preferred’ candidates.


33 posted on 11/25/2013 10:03:38 AM PST by ilgipper (Obama is proving that very bad ideas can be wrapped up in pretty words)
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To: Manic_Episode

Cruz is my 1st choice also. However if it comes to between Hollary & fat boy Chris, I know the decision is easy.


34 posted on 11/25/2013 12:20:12 PM PST by entropy12 (Zero thanks to all who stayed home and helped elect Acorn lawyer Zero.)
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To: entropy12
I'd stay home
35 posted on 11/25/2013 12:22:19 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: ilgipper

I could’nt agree more with you on your POV that moderates are not always the most electable.

A good conservative who has great charisma, and can play word jujitsu on the inevitable gotcha questions from media, is the most electable in all states except the deep blue states.

In a state like Illinois, a strong conservative has no chance. Therefore I am willing to back someone like Mark Kirk. But I would not back Kirk if he was running in KY.


36 posted on 11/25/2013 12:25:14 PM PST by entropy12 (Zero thanks to all who stayed home and helped elect Acorn lawyer Zero.)
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To: entropy12
Just give a smart politician, who is quick witted, and is not afraid to counter-jab. Enough of these mellow republicans who were afraid to call Obama the lying community organizer.

You've just described Chris Christie.

37 posted on 11/25/2013 12:25:35 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: GeronL

That is a dumb decision. Then we end up with the income-redistribution-Acorn lawyer-community organizer from south side of Chicago.

That may be OK with you, but not with me. I have way too much to lose with Obama than would have lost with the moderate from Massachusetts. May be you have no wealth to re-distribute, in which case I can understand your POV.


38 posted on 11/25/2013 12:28:26 PM PST by entropy12 (Zero thanks to all who stayed home and helped elect Acorn lawyer Zero.)
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To: entropy12

I don’t think RomneyCare would have been much different truthfully, except it would have passed close to unanimously.


39 posted on 11/25/2013 12:31:03 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: entropy12

Might be dumb, but I will not vote for anyone I don’t think is a conservative.

If the RINO’s refuse to support conservatives in elections like the one in Virginia, we should do the same to them.


40 posted on 11/25/2013 12:36:21 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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