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Dear Feminists, when did "yes" start to mean "potentially/maybe/definitely no?"
The Looking Spoon ^ | 11-13-13 | The Looking Spoon

Posted on 11/13/2013 9:46:39 AM PST by The Looking Spoon

I found this meme while surfing around online, and I'm curious if anyone wants to offer up their take. The term "feminist" is one that is so polarizing it tends to cut right down the left-right divide, but this one has me wondering.

The rationale of people who defend the message this woman presents is that a woman isn't actually saying "yes" in certain instances, such as while under the influence of alcohol...Ok...

This logic reminds me of a quote from British author Paul Johnson (from his book Enemies of Socieity), emphasis is mine...

(I)t is essential to use words accurately and in good faith...beware of those who seek to win an argument at the expense of the language. For the fact that they do is proof positive that their argument is false, and proof presumptive that they know it is. A man who deliberately inflicts violence on the language will almost certainly inflict violence on human beings if he acquires the power. Those who treasure the meaning of words will treasure truth, and those who bend words to their purposes are very likely in pursuit of anti-social ones. The correct and honourable use of words is the first and natural credential of civilized status.

In that light, I think this girl's message is a bunch of crap. All my life so-called feminists have gone on and on about how "no means no" and "yes means yes." Now "no" still retains its very concrete meaning while "yes" gets to be some ambiguous...thing...that can now be a reflection of how a woman feels at any given time?

Basically, what I think is actually being said here is that "feminists" have now reserved the right to claim victim-hood as a way to save face or feel better about buyer's remorse after engaging in consensual sexual activities.

This may seem glib to some people, but I have personally seen the permanent and life-long devastation sexual abuse can bring upon women (or anyone at all) and am very sensitive to such matters. However, this is just too convenient, it brings a whole new meaning to "a woman scorned" and sex crimes should not be debased with such antics.

Women who do this should disclose this belief before dating a man, they'd no doubt find themselves permanently single lest their would-be partners find themselves victim to Johnson's prophecy.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Politics
KEYWORDS: clintonlegacy; culturewar; feminazis; feminism; hookupculture; hypocrites; putsomeiceonthat; raperape; savethemales; waronwomenmeme
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To: The Looking Spoon

When feminazis needed a new weapon against males.


21 posted on 11/13/2013 11:19:16 AM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I was stating the reality of how things are treated, not my opinion on how they should be.


22 posted on 11/13/2013 11:37:47 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: The Looking Spoon

Wasn’t it Andrea Dworkin or some other feminazi who said that all male-female sex is rape?


23 posted on 11/13/2013 11:45:13 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: The Looking Spoon

Feminists forever surrendered this issue when they attacked women who were sexually harassed in the workplace (under threat of violence, authority, etc.) and possibly raped by Bill Clinton.

Abortion wins out politically to the needs of rape victims in the Feminazi world.


24 posted on 11/13/2013 11:46:42 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Secret Agent Man
if you’re talking about a seasoned relationship, one or both could be distracted by stuff . . .

All of your other posts make sense, but the key words here are could be. I'm in a seasoned relationship, married nearly 30 years albeit down from the 2-3 times a day routine from when we were first married.

Yeah, I could be distracted by an intruder breaking down the door or something of magnitude. And, yeah, I might even hear the phone ringing. But my reaction is to ignore it while my woman's reaction is to answer it.

It has less to do with the length of the relationship than the proportion of the blood flow going into the brain or the penis. I'll grant you, however, that the length and/or status of the relationship might have some effect on which way the blood flows.

So, yes, it is possible for the blood flow to supply both organs at the same time if both are on reduced capacity.

25 posted on 11/13/2013 11:47:40 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: The Looking Spoon

Intoxication can’t be evidence of rape.

Liberals (including Obama) freed Roman Polanski who provide a qualude cocktail to an unwilling 13 year old girl then forcibly committed acts of sodomy on several entry points (to avoid impregnating her).

Whoopi Goldberg said that’s not really “rape rape”. ABCDisney did not rebuke her.


26 posted on 11/13/2013 11:50:06 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: SampleMan

thanks, i reread and i can see what you mean now. :-)


27 posted on 11/13/2013 11:53:18 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult; Lazamataz
If you laid all of the feminists end to end, it would be the best thing that ever happened to them.

Definitely a job for Laz.

28 posted on 11/13/2013 11:54:05 AM PST by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
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To: a fool in paradise

yeah, even consensual sex in marriage is rape to her.

wonder if all female-female sex is rape. maybe only for the butch lesbian if she enjoys it.


29 posted on 11/13/2013 11:55:11 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: a fool in paradise

I believe it was Catherine McKinnon.


30 posted on 11/13/2013 11:55:20 AM PST by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

There are women who are “initiated” into lesbianism after a night of heavy drinking with predatory females (in roller derby and other female centric groups).

Is that ever called “rape”? Even when the butch among them use strap on toys?


31 posted on 11/13/2013 11:59:35 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: IMR 4350
If a guy gets drunk and wakes up next to a booger the next morning can he also scream rape?

Only if it involves this pair of twins:


32 posted on 11/13/2013 12:00:52 PM PST by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Can you imagine that there exists any male on the face of the planet (or any other planet for that matter) who would willingly/knowingly have sex with Andrea Dworkin? I can’t.


33 posted on 11/13/2013 12:07:01 PM PST by Bob
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To: Bob
There are plenty of attractive but gullible and resentful women who read the writings of such hateful people. Sometimes even under the advice of professors.
34 posted on 11/13/2013 12:11:16 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: The Looking Spoon

why is this a problem? dont associate with slutty feminists. problem solved.


35 posted on 11/13/2013 12:13:44 PM PST by wafflehouse (RE-ELECT NO ONE !)
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To: Night Hides Not

I said wake up from a drunk, not wake up from a coma.


36 posted on 11/13/2013 1:36:22 PM PST by IMR 4350
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To: a fool in paradise

THAT is an EXCELLENT point!

I forgot about that...


37 posted on 11/13/2013 1:51:32 PM PST by The Looking Spoon
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To: The Looking Spoon
Ha! "No" really means DO NOT CLICK THIS LINK unless you're an adult and not easily offended. Really.
38 posted on 11/14/2013 7:13:37 AM PST by Peet (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: a fool in paradise

Wasn’t it Andrea Dworkin or some other feminazi who said that all male-female sex is rape?


Yep, she was one of them. She and her pal MacKinnon were trying to sell their porn-is-rape as law all over the U.S. back in the seventies (search Dworkin-MacKinnon act) and failed. They ultimately got it passed in Canada and, in a case of BITING irony, Dworkin’s pornographic lesbian novel was the first book banned under the new law.

Also see Brownmiller’s assertion that “in all cases of rape, all men benefit” therefore all men are guilty of all rapes.


39 posted on 11/14/2013 7:23:51 AM PST by Peet (Oderint dum metuant (all typos (c) me))
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