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How Chief Justice Roberts Saved America in His Obamacare Ruling
NESARA- REPUBLIC RESTORED - Galactic News ^ | October 20, 2013

Posted on 10/23/2013 4:56:24 PM PDT by dontreadthis

I of all people am for independent thinking and action on the part of people, but we have been sooo brainwashed by the government and U.S. press most people don't have a clue as to what is happening.

You should certainly do what you want, but I HIGHLY suggest you DO NOT sign up for Obamacare until you read this CAREFULLY. Chief Justice Roberts carefully worded his ruling and left out any requirement to participate for 95% of Americans.

(Excerpt) Read more at nesaranews.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: abortion; deathpanels; johnroberts; obamacare; scotusobamacare; zerocare
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Should some kind souls have the patience to wade through this analysis, I would appreciate their impressions. I, for one, am not signing up regardless.
1 posted on 10/23/2013 4:56:24 PM PDT by dontreadthis
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To: dontreadthis

How bout you post the stuff here ?


2 posted on 10/23/2013 4:57:44 PM PDT by onona (The Earth is the insane asylum for the universe (yup, I belong))
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To: dontreadthis
I'm not planning on signing up either, but this analysis seems like its based upon the old 'federal income tax is voluntary' hokum.

To which I'll respond, you go ahead and test out your theory first.

3 posted on 10/23/2013 5:03:21 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: dontreadthis

Baloney. Roberts ruling is about as bad as Blackmun’s ruling in R v W.


4 posted on 10/23/2013 5:05:14 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2016)
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To: onona

fr would not permit


5 posted on 10/23/2013 5:05:38 PM PDT by dontreadthis
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To: skeeter

I kinda thought so too. And even if it isn’t, just try fighting it. The legal cost will kill you.


6 posted on 10/23/2013 5:08:24 PM PDT by dontreadthis
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To: dontreadthis

You know, instead of parsing words, he could have just stated outright that it was unconstitutional.

He didn’t do that, so all of this is garbage.


7 posted on 10/23/2013 5:08:58 PM PDT by Shadow44
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Traitor Roberts wrecked his legacy with a one Justice tortured torpedo ruling (not just opinion) aimed directly at the American Public.


8 posted on 10/23/2013 5:10:43 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: dontreadthis

And Nero saved Rome by playing his fiddle in C sharp instead of C flat


9 posted on 10/23/2013 5:11:16 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: dontreadthis
Then Roberts did this amazing, totally judicial thing that no one else can possibly do except someone with his vast power at their fingertips - he actually looked up the law that Obamacare quoted. And when he did, he found that subchapter B of chapter 68, specifically at § 6671 (a), says: The penalties and liabilities provided by this subchapter shall be ... assessed and collected in the same manner as taxes. ...any reference in this title to "tax" imposed by this title shall be deemed also to refer to the penalties and liabilities provided by this subchapter.

Then, after reading these actual laws cited by Obamacare itself, Roberts made this blockbuster observation: "The requirement to pay is found in the Internal Revenue Code and enforced by the IRS, which-as we previously explained-must assess and collect it "in the same manner as taxes."

I read as much as I could tolerate of this nitwit. My opinion of Roberts isn't changed by this article which selectively ignores certain aspects of Roberts' actions.

In essence, what Roberts did was legislate from the bench, something that Judge Bork noted was a growing problem during his approval hearing. He also played semantics with the words "penalties" and "taxes". After twisting and turning his opinion every which way, CJ Roberts arrived at his now infamous convoluted ruling that stuck us all with this pig legislation.

The nitwit who wrote this article ignores the thousands of pages of legal analysis following Roberts' ruling that highlighted how far he had to go around the bend to make a very poor, very weak argument to allow ZeroCare to become law. Dozens of legal analysts far more educated and experienced than nitwit all agreed that Roberts had more twists and turns in his opinion than pretzel dough, but nitwit thinks he knows better.

10 posted on 10/23/2013 5:14:10 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for the American politburo!!)
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To: vbmoneyspender

There isno C flat; its B...: )


11 posted on 10/23/2013 5:16:22 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: dontreadthis

I read through it but I’m not a lawyer (thank God). It is a lot of legalese that seems to boil down to the curbs placed on government to collect a tax penalty using criminal actions and liens. It is more technical than this and also gets into other definitions, such as timeliness. If I had faith the government would follow the law and some other judge sees things the way Robert’s sees them, it may work. For a lawless government and corrupt judiciary, especially a tax judge, forget it.


12 posted on 10/23/2013 5:18:03 PM PDT by trubolotta
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To: Shadow44

Agree. The author seems to applaud Robert’s being clever, not straight forward.


13 posted on 10/23/2013 5:19:07 PM PDT by trubolotta
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To: trubolotta

This article is from the NESARA website, which should be a red flag that it’s likely to be nonsense. And, having now read it, I can tell you as a lawyer that it IS nonsense; it’s full of usual Tax Protester arguments about how only corporations have to pay income taxes, yadda yadda.


14 posted on 10/23/2013 5:23:41 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: dontreadthis

Here’s a brief summary, ppppppppppppppppppppffffffffffffttt.


15 posted on 10/23/2013 5:24:09 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (On the evening of 10/16/13, the ailing republican party breathed its last breath.)
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To: dontreadthis; a fool in paradise
Reads like Bologna, and it ain't Eyetalian!


16 posted on 10/23/2013 5:25:41 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: All

thanks to all, but in retrospect I think it was a waste of everyone’s time to read this


17 posted on 10/23/2013 5:32:31 PM PDT by dontreadthis
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Thanks for that confirmation. I got that impression when I saw all the focus on the definitions.


18 posted on 10/23/2013 5:32:32 PM PDT by trubolotta
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To: dontreadthis

A well written judicial opinion should leave no doubt that the decision was the correct one. If the decision is open to numerous interpretations and parsing, then it was poorly written and decided. The Roberts opinion is clearly in the latter category.


19 posted on 10/23/2013 5:36:18 PM PDT by yawningotter
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To: dontreadthis; All
NOTE TO FREEPERS:

THIS ARTICLE IS A REPRINT OF MY POST:

One Stone, Two Powers: How Chief Justice Roberts Saved America

20 posted on 10/23/2013 5:45:33 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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