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Contempt for illegal drug use blinds American public to alternatives
Coach is Right ^ | 8/25/13 | Bruce Karlson

Posted on 08/25/2013 8:46:19 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax

Please do not be guilty of the above when considering the legalization of all recreational drugs. Anyone is legally permitted to kill himself slowly with tobacco, once addicted. Equally, a person may legally drink himself to death and/or wreck the lives of those around him with a bottle a day. For such people we have compassion. But for the users of illegal drugs, most of us have only contempt.

It is difficult (impossible, actually) to understand the logic of making certain drugs illegal. Apart from legality, what is the difference between smoking a “joint” and having a beer? Further, doing a “line” of cocaine makes for an apt comparison with having a dry martini. Oh, the “gateway” routine? Well, weed may be a “gateway” drug but Budweiser and nicotine are the “gateways” to weed. Shall we continue this line of reasoning??

Society is visited with problems from both legal and illegal drugs but the illegal ones support a criminal culture that is bankrupting...

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TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: drugarrests; drugs; drugusers; libertarians; medicalmarijuana; prescriptiondrug; randsconcerntrolls
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To: goodwithagun
I would have no problem with this IF I weren’t paying for it.

You're paying for it.

Watch our Drug War Cost Clock. See if you can keep up with how fast the government wastes your money.
Since January 1, 2013 until this moment, Sunday, August 25, 2013 11:12:37 AM, the government has already spent
$35,068,730,322 of taxpayer money, on a "Drug War" that has a record of failure unequaled in history.

That's just the FedMob expenditures. Then there are the state expenditures...

The state portion of the Drug War costs comes from a report titled, "Shoveling Up: The Impact of Substance Abuse on State Budgets", authored by The National Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse at Columbia University, in 2001, which in its press release and on page 3, shows that states spent $30.7 billion in 1998

61 posted on 08/25/2013 10:20:55 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: DanZ
Pot is a gateway to it IMO. Most violent prisoners in California all are addicted to and use pot. Gateway drug for sure.

IMO only the real sick people should get it, not the phony $40 notes from pot doctors.

We are going to pay soon for this acceptance. More brain defective children. More unfulfilled lives. Far more violence will happen as well IMO.

Leave the stuff for cancer patients and the like.

62 posted on 08/25/2013 10:22:42 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Which address NONE of the points I made.


63 posted on 08/25/2013 10:23:13 AM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: G Larry
It's not up to the federal government to address the points that you made. That's a societal and state issue. Not a federal issue.

/johnny

64 posted on 08/25/2013 10:25:25 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: fr_freak

This isn’t some libertarian, individual “right”, as the impacts to society are long term and severe.

Get it yet?


65 posted on 08/25/2013 10:25:57 AM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Good!

You won’t mind then, if 50 states recognize the concerns I addressed, and make laws accordingly?


66 posted on 08/25/2013 10:27:34 AM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: A CA Guy
It was legal until 1913, I think. Why weren't there issues before that?

The feds are overstepping their constitutional authority. Regardless of how you feel about drugs, do you want to trash the Constitution for the war on drugs?

Move the police powers back to the States, where it belongs.

/johnny

67 posted on 08/25/2013 10:28:31 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

You and I are in complete agreement, Johnny, I just want my money eliminated from the system before those who use drugs already see this as a way of life. For example, I live in a very low-income county and it is just known that you don’t go anywhere on the first, second, third, or last day of the month. I teach at our local public school and my husband is on our local fire department. We see everyday, first hand, the drug use in the “urban culture.” legalizing will make the problem worse and bring it out into the public even more. So until some of those people literally die in the gutter because my tax dollars aren’t going to their treatments and od hospital stays, I don’t think this plan will work. If the government safety net still exists, expect very bad problems from legalization. Again, I agree that fed gov has no business regulating or declaring war against these substances.


68 posted on 08/25/2013 10:29:32 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: DannyTN
DannyTN

Have you ever considered that maybe the entire purpose for the War on Drugs is NOT to prevent addiction but exists to create ARMIES of DEMOCRAT voting workers, in mindless bureaucracies across the nation, who pay dues to the DEMOCRAT UNIONS? ( Yeah! I am shouting.) And...To line the pockets of corrupt legislators and police officials?

The War on Drugs is NOT preventing drug addiction in the least. Not at all. Not a jot! But....It is causing a corruption of the rule of law.

69 posted on 08/25/2013 10:30:12 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: G Larry
I have no problem with that at all, since states DO have laws on the books now.

I don't expect Texas would legalize much, heck we've still got dry counties here.

Put the fed back in the constitutional box.

/johnny

70 posted on 08/25/2013 10:32:00 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: A CA Guy

We all draw a line. On the farm kids as young as 10 drive trucks, tractors - You will not find this behavior in a populated area for a good reason.

All drugs (including alcohol) that are overused lead to personal and more importantly community issues. The old English TORT law may be a viable option to ameliorate the family of the people harmed by the over-users of drugs. The family of the drug user would also be exposed to this TORT penalty


71 posted on 08/25/2013 10:32:18 AM PDT by DanZ
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To: G Larry
You won’t mind then, if 50 states recognize the concerns I addressed, and make laws accordingly?

If you check your own state laws, you will find they already did.

72 posted on 08/25/2013 10:32:53 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: goodwithagun
You are already paying for all those things for the drug addicted and you now paying for armies of middles class Democrat voters sitting in “War on Drugs” bureaucracies across the nation, who pay dues to the Democrat Union voting machine.

You are also paying for all that you mention and making sure that our corrupt legislators pockets are lined with the money of the cartels and NO ONE is being prevented from being a drug addict as I type.

When little ‘ole me, a 60 year old grandmom, could find illegal drugs within a 15 minute drive from her home, then there is NO War on Drugs. There is merely a Democrat voting machine pretending to be a War on Drugs.

73 posted on 08/25/2013 10:36:34 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: JRandomFreeper

The left loves the drug war, because it makes the right complicit in their abuse of the Commerce Clause.


74 posted on 08/25/2013 10:36:42 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: rawcatslyentist; TigersEye

Those figures will not go down with legalization under the current one party, bleeding heart system that we have. If anything the costs will rise. We will have more “free” clinics for users, more medical coverage under obamacare, more gov subsidized clean needle pickup stations, more AIDS prevention and awareness, etc. You really think legalization with the current crop of pols is going to lessen our costs? Please! They will find a way to spend even more money! Get some true conservatives in office willing to pull the plug on welfare subsidies and NOT create NEW subsidies for users, and then legalize everything.


75 posted on 08/25/2013 10:36:49 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: wintertime

I don’t even have to drive 15 minutes. See my post #75.


76 posted on 08/25/2013 10:38:16 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: goodwithagun
You aren't willing to end civil rights abuse, federal usurpation and the trashing of the Constitution until all of your pet peeves get fixed?

Quite the conservative.

/johnny

77 posted on 08/25/2013 10:40:49 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

“It was legal until 1913, I think. “

We also did not have a Federal Tax code. Let us return to those care days once again


78 posted on 08/25/2013 10:44:23 AM PDT by DanZ
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To: A CA Guy
So?,,,,,Why wasn't there an epidemic of all those maladies in the 19th and early 20th century?

The War on Drugs exists to provide middle class jobs to armies of government bureaucrats who vote Democrat and belong to unions that money launder funds directly into the pockets of legislators. The War on Drugs also exists so the corrupt politicians can hand out favors to those in the highest levels of organized crime.

“The Godfather” was true.

79 posted on 08/25/2013 10:48:21 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: DanZ
I'd love to. I'm working hard to get us back to that place where federal government stayed in it's constitutional box. Many problem created by the government would just go away.

/johnny

80 posted on 08/25/2013 10:48:34 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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