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The surprising ages of the Founding Fathers on July 4, 1776
kottke.org ^ | August 13, 2013 | Todd Andrlik

Posted on 08/13/2013 3:43:07 PM PDT by NYer

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To: MondoQueen; All
My great-great-great grandfather...was put on a prison ship and contracted small-pox.

I have a great-great-great-great grandfather patriot who was also put on a prison ship in Brooklyn, and died there. Fortunately for me--he already had fathered my ancestor.

The British prison ships in NY harbor had utterly horendous conditions as bad as any concentration camp in WWII. More men--like my ancestor--died in those ships, over 10,000, than were killed in all the battles of the Revolution. They carelessly threw their bodies overboard, and their fate wasn't even discovered until human bones washed up on the shore of Brooklyn after the war.

People should recall such serious British cruelty when they get too chummy with our relatives across the pond....

81 posted on 08/14/2013 9:22:07 PM PDT by AnalogReigns (because the real world is not digital...)
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To: NYer

wow! young and old courageous people!


82 posted on 08/14/2013 9:25:53 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: Pharmboy; SunkenCiv

I happen to be reading a biography of Hamilton by Ron Chernow right now.

Hamilton was illegitimate, and left an orphan in St. Croix at an early age. He was largely self-taught, although he attended Kings College (now Columbia) in NY when he came to the mainland.

Even during the war, as a 21 year old aide to Washington during the Revolutionary War he took time off from his duties to read and study both contemporary and Classical writers and philosophers.


83 posted on 08/15/2013 11:23:59 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: ConradofMontferrat

“I don’t know why this is so surprising.”

Because historical perspective is a vanishing virtue.


84 posted on 08/15/2013 11:58:00 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Pharmboy

“How did we produce such a brilliant crop of men...just when we needed them?”

Some people might suspect Divine intervention.


85 posted on 08/15/2013 12:03:00 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: wildbill

As John Adams (and others who didn’t care for Alex) might refer to him on occasion: “...the bastard son of a Scottish peddler.”

Did you get to the part yet where he holds off an angry mob single-handedly at Columbia?


86 posted on 08/15/2013 12:36:02 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: dsc

Indeed. Washington was convinced that his life was speared during some very close calls during the French&Indian War by just that mechanism.


87 posted on 08/15/2013 12:37:25 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: pgyanke

Oh, not at all.


88 posted on 08/15/2013 1:42:03 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Right, old people don’t seem to have been particularly rare back then. In fact, doesn’t the Bible say a typical lifespan is three score and ten years or something? So even back then living to old age was the norm (if you can call 70 old age...my dad turned 70 recently and he can bench press more than I can!).

And hats off to your mother...people who’ve lived life for that long and seen what they’ve seen are a true treasure.


89 posted on 08/15/2013 6:20:39 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Pharmboy

Yep, I read that part already, but the best recounting of his heroic stand against the angry mob bent on tar & feathring the President of King’s College was by the renowned American History Prof. Walter Metzger.

Prof. Metzger gave a lecture on Columbia’s history to all the incoming freshman classes back in the day. When he got to the part about Hamilton giving a mollifying speech to the mob to give President Cooper a chance to escape, Prof. Metzger would play several different parts, with the highlight being the hard of hearing Cooper yelling to the mob from an upper window, “Dont listen to him, he’s crazy.”


90 posted on 08/15/2013 6:29:56 PM PDT by wildbill
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To: wildbill
Excellent! I had not heard that...

Yep...apart from being being brilliant, young Alex had brass balls and feared no one. At Yorktown, the General gave him the honor of leading a a most dangerous raid on a redoubt since he knew how much it meant to him.

91 posted on 08/15/2013 6:43:49 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: ConradofMontferrat

Because folks don’t know their history.............


92 posted on 08/15/2013 6:53:45 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.)
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To: NYer

Wow, they were mature. Now, they are juveniles.


93 posted on 08/15/2013 6:55:25 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: ConradofMontferrat; SunkenCiv; All

The average life span was about 30, but if you lived to age 5 then the average would be a lot higher. My late husband had family records from the middle 1800s in southern Illinois. One ancestor had 9 children. Five died around the age of 2 in August or September. They no doubt died of “summer diarrhea” which killed many children when they were weaned at that age. The ones who lived mostly survived into their 60s.


94 posted on 08/15/2013 11:18:17 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: oldbrowser; All

Actually, I think the average age of first menstruation was around 16 or 17, much later than today. I think it has something to do with diet. My parents had a big garden and we ate a lot of our own vegetables and fruits. I was about 2 years later than my school mates.


95 posted on 08/15/2013 11:20:26 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: ConradofMontferrat; Regulator; All

His point is that many young people are moving back home because housing has gotten so expensive and jobs are still fairly scarce. On the other hand, when my son was lying around the house at age 18, in 1991, I suggested that other young people no longer in school were paying their parents $200 a month to live at home. He said, OK, then I’ll move out. He and friends rented a broken down dump for $350 a month. He met his wife there and now has 2 children and a good job and supervises 8 people. Oh, and that house and surrounding neighborhood have been “gentrified” and it would probably sell for between $600,000 and $1 million now.


96 posted on 08/15/2013 11:27:29 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: WhoisAlanGreenspan?

I think the constitution was about 14 years later.


97 posted on 08/15/2013 11:39:16 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: Sirius Lee

Today you make colonel by being old enough, having the *correct* political views, and sucking up to the right people.


98 posted on 08/18/2013 4:27:49 PM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: Pharmboy; wildbill; gleeaikin

Thanks.


99 posted on 10/05/2013 11:53:48 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: NYer

Outstanding!


100 posted on 05/17/2014 5:39:34 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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