Posted on 06/28/2013 7:59:27 PM PDT by Patriot Politics
"You can't say gay couples shouldn't be married, after all, they are born that way." is one of the most common arguments for gay "marriage." The idea is if the public is convinced that homosexuality is innate and not a choice, then the public as a whole will become more accepting of homosexuality and gay marriage. However, this argument has no scientific support and indeed, neurology may provide an explanation of how homosexuality is indeed a choice.
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“Because no man is going to *decide* to look at another mans hairy butt and say Man, I want that.”
Almost word for word from Andrew Dice Clay’s comedy routine. Good call.
That’s another point that I never understand! Instead of bending one’s lifestyles to one’s beliefs many people do the opposite and bend their beliefs to match their lifestyle (ie gay church) In the end it is God, not society to which every man is accountable.
Thank you! I really appreciate everyone giving me a second chance to redeem myself! I honestly thought I was contributing by posting this thread, but now I see that the best is actively engaging in open discussion.
Welcome to FreeR FRiend, I have a feeling you’ll do fine here. ;)
Best is posting your entire content here so that people can evaluate whether they want to frequent your blog. Then interaction with the people who argue/agree/praise/pan/whatever your contribution to the site.
You will truly fit right in.
So I should begin the thread with the entire article instead of just the excerpt? Thank you for helping a new guy figure this all out!
Probably as a "Fag Lack of Esteem" parade today.
Alcoholism is without a doubt genetic. It doesn’t always pass down, but children of alcoholics are far more likely to become alcoholic than children of those parents that are not.
Placemark for pingout.
What is a pingout? I know its a n00b question but I have no idea.
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Those who defend the homosexual/lesbian lifestyle often use the arguement that they were born that way; therefore, it is “natural” for them and cannot be changed, there is nothing wrong with it, etc.
I would argue that if that is true, then as someone who comes from a Christian background that was theologically very armenian in theology, I would only concede that John Calvin was more right than some would like to admit. They still are not off the hook, born with it or not.
Indeed, the theological consequences of such a stand are very disheartening. The idea of immutable homosexuality carries with it a predestination style of theology that has very unfortunate consequences (ie if I am born to die going to Hell then why shouldn’t I live as a hedonist?)
The problem is that every person exists as two people: the logical and the emotional. Through logic we may make volitional decisions regarding our sexual orientation. However, those decisions influence the behavior of our emotional self which determines from whence we derive joy or pleasure.
It is preferred that you post your entire article here, assuming that it is your own, original material, not subject to copyright from another source.
If you attract enough eyes here, you will probably have more subscribers to your blog.
If enough people like your work, you may want to start a ping list to let them know when you have posted an article.
Including a short note saying to post a request to be added to (or removed from) your ping list will help the list to grow.
Best wishes.
I run three ping lists. WHen I don’t have time to do the actual ping list, I make a placemark and add “for pingout” to remind myself next time I’m FR. Just “Placemark” for me usually means I want to just read it.
I’m insanely busy lately but unfortunately so is the hellish news....
Well, I think it might “alleviate” more than you think. And it also begs the question: Is it just about sex? Marriage is about a lot of things.
I think same-sex attraction is biological, genetic, heritable, molded by environment and subconsciously chosen.
I say biological because our behavior affects our brains. Just as those who engage in any specific behavior, I think all their brains will be similar in certain regions. Still, nothing in biology supports the idea anybody is born with an attraction to the same sex.
I say genetic but I don’t mean to imply anybody is born with an attraction to the same sex. By genetic I mean linkages and associations and most definitely do not believe there is a gay gene or genes behind same-sex attraction.
I say heritable but I do not mean to imply same-sex attraction is inherited which confuses people. Rather I think it comes about by a combination of phenotype variation and the environment in which some are raised.
I say environment because nearly every study on the subject references environment as important in forming our sexuality. And some studies have shown children raised in homosexual households are more likely to be gay, more likely to get involved with drugs, more likely to ...
I say subconsciously chosen because I think the vast majority do not consciously choose their same sex attraction but they all choose to engage in same-sex sexual behavior.
There is no genetic test or procedure (experimental or otherwise) that can determine one’s sexual orientation. When people claim to be gay and we believe them, what we’re really doing is taking them at their word. We believe their claim, we believe their testimony and we believe their declaration that they are gay.
But there are some people who are suddenly skeptical when one claims to be ex-gay. They don’t believe the ex-gay claim, they don’t believe the ex-gay testimony nor their declaration that they are ex-gay.
When somebody uses a certain standard to measure the credibility of what one group says, but then refuses to use the same standard to measure the credibility of what another group says—thereby ignoring the claims of the second group (ex-gays)—he should ask himself why he believes one group and not the other... This is a double standard.
It’s complicated. But born that way? I see no evidence to support the idea.
Thank you very much! I truly appreciate you helping to become a better FR member and being patient with me as I knew nothing.
You are most welcome.
A sinful lifestyle choice.
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