Posted on 05/22/2013 4:44:41 AM PDT by LD Jackson
Totally off topic but the more they show these women on tv, I bet the Obama Girls can field one hell of a softball team. Throw in big sis, Kagen, Sotomayor....
This is just a way of doing business for Obama...create another forum....that will keep you off subject.
We need to win the House, Senate and Whitehouse for the next 20 years to straighten out this mess.
You can get a good start at building an Org Chart by reading this article from Fox19:
Reality Check Exclusive: Cincinnati agent giving orders in IRS scandal?
Here is the first paragraph of the article just to give you a flavor of what you'll find:
"The six Cincinnati workers we have identified, who sent scrutinizing letters to conservative groups with words including "patriot, liberty, tea party or 9-12" in their names are Mitchel Steele, Carly Young, Joseph Herr, Stephen Seok, Liz Hofacre and a woman identified only as Ms. Richards."
If you read the whole article you will find that these people ultimately report to a Cindy Thomas. Reading on you will read that:
... consider this chain of command since the story broke.
Former Acting IRS Commissioner Steven Miller… retires
Joseph Grant, Commissioner of Tax Exempt and Government Entities... retires.
Lois Lerner, Head of Exempt Organization…says she will invoke her 5th amendment right to not incriminate herself when called before Congress on Wednesday.
Holly Paz, Director of Exempt Organizations, subpoenaed to Washington to be interviewed by members of Congress.
All of this IRS leadership, in Washington D.C.
Then one level down is Cindy Thomas, the highest ranking employee in Cincinnati in this Tax Exempt and Government Entities Department that no one in Congress is talking to... yet.
Can I plead the fifth on my tax return?
Huh? She ASKED a reporter to bring this up?
wtf is going on here?
If thisis a redherring, what are we missing?
(oh, and there is that whole DEAD AMBASSADOR thing...)
(p.s. Was that a real story yesterday that Obama was doing ‘inapt’ activities the night our Ambassador was being killed?)
THE IRS SCANDALS NEED A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR
“Can I plead the fifth on my tax return?”
It’s been tried. Just don’t spill the fifth on it.
The fifth amendment is used when testimony will incriminate one in a CRIME. Not to avoid telling facts one does not want to speak about. If Ms. Lerner takes the fifth, she is saying CRIMES were committed.
Laws are irrelevant to Democrats.
THE IRS NEEDS TO BE ABOLISHED!
The problem is that the only civil path to a solution is through some government entity somewhere and ALL government is dependent upon tax revenue. No matter what any republican tells you, government needs taxes and the taxing authority is THE teat they all seek.
The IRS scandal is one of the many reasons we have second amendment rights. The circular foodchain of government now serves only it’s own ends. So-called civil servants are neither servants nor civil.
She’s not the whistle blower; she’s outing this info to get ahead of whoever the whistle blower is. They never admit to this sort of stuff unless forced to.
However, the only sane response to testifying before congress is to take the fifth each and every time. Congresscritters lie to us with impunity but if you slip up in front of them they'll go after you for perjury or contempt.
Congress is too corrupt to trust with your freedom, take the fifth.
“...we’ll feed you enough cigarettes to keep bribing the guards until the Pardon List comes out on January 19, 2017”
“Obama used his IRS to rig the election.”
The RNC rigged the election by running a corporatist statist former governor of the second most left wing state in the nation. Romney had no credibility with the voters because he changed his positions on almost every key issue in order to win the nomination and his lack of belief the supposed principles his campaign endorsed was apparent. When given a choice between an avoid hard core socialist president running for reelection and a socialist light candidate running as a moderate conservative the people chose the real thing instead of the wolf in sheep’s clothing. The electorate knew who Obama was and it also knew Romney was whatever his handlers decided he needed to be on any given day.
Romney absolutely blew the election when he allowed Obama and Candy Crowley to slap him in the face on national television during a debate. Instead of standing up for himself and going on the attack he folded like the cheap suit he was. Strong leaders don’t cave in pressure situations.
Do I believe Obama used the IRS to harass conservative organizations and thereby minimize their impact on the election? Yes I do. Do I believe the organizations allied with the Democrat party in 2008 and 2012 committed voter fraud? Yes I do. The system is totally corrupt. Look at American history. Voter fraud and intimidation have been part of the process since the early days of the republic. It is a given and a winning candidate must find ways to overcome the dirty tricks of the opposition.
It is time for us to stop blaming the other side for our failings. When we run corporate statist light socialists such as George H.W. Bush, Bob Dole, George W. Bush, John McCain, and Mitt Romney against committed socialists we are going to lose 9 out of 10 times. When the American people learned George H.W. Bush wasn’t going to continue Reagan’s conservative policies (taxes for example the Souter nomination for example) they replaced him with Clinton. George W. Bush lost the popular vote in 2000, becoming president only due to the Electoral College and less than 1000 voters in Florida. Given a choice between “passionate conservatism” (G.W. Bush) and real socialism (Gore), the electorate in 2000 chose the real thing (Gore). If the Democrats had run a better candidate than Kerry in 2004 (Hillary for example) Bush would likely have lost.
As Reagan demonstrated twice, the Republican House victory with the Contract for America demonstrated in 1994, and the Tea Party demonstrated in the 2010 House elections, real conservatives promoting real conservative principles with conviction can win elections with large margins.
The problem with conservatives winning elections is not conservatism, the media, voter fraud, or IRS intimidation. The reason conservatives lose at the ballot box is because there is no conservative party. The Republican Party is a moderate socialist corporatist statist secular organization, not a vehicle for promoting individual liberty and American values. The party leaders have no interest promoting the conservative agenda in the legislature. They care only about the votes they can collect on election day by telling conservative voters its candidates aren’t as bad as the other choice. Unfortunately, like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football Lucy is about to snatch out of the way, we conservatives enable the party by believing we have no other choice than “least bad”.
To rebuild country, conservatives are either going to have to take over the power structure in the Republican Party, like the Marxists did the Democrat Party, or form a new party. Without wresting control of the power structure from the Bush family, Karl Rove, Romney, Boehner, McConnell, McCain, Graham etc, etc. there will be no real conservatives at the top of the Republican ticket, nor will there be aggressive action in Congress to pass legislation to end deficit spending. As good as Reagan was he was not able to push the corporatists out of the power structure. He was forced to name G.H.W. Bush as his VP and as soon as Reagan was out of office, Bush dumped the conservatives.
Given the history of the Republican Party since Reagan, it does not appear the party can be transformed from within. The people with the money don’t want it to change. Therefore, if conservatives want a real voice in national politics they are going to have to break from the Republican Party and form their own party.
That's all bs ,You're from the south ? Compare a state run by Republicans like Texas , or Counties or Parishes run by Republicans to states like California, Detroit, New Orleans ,detroit, chicago run by democrats and you see the difference between the parties. many of you on here constantly campaign against republicans . that helps democrats destroy all opposition to democrats. it's what the liberal mainstream media does all the time . how does if feel to be on the same side and doing the same thing as the liberal news media?
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