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Will American Soldiers Fire on U.S. Citizens?
clashdaily.com Blog ^ | 2 May 2013 | By Skip Coryell

Posted on 05/06/2013 1:57:18 PM PDT by True Grit

I was doing a radio interview this morning and the host asked me why the Department of Homeland Security needed 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition. The easy answer for me was, “They don’t.” Of course the follow-up question for him was, “Then why are they buying it?”

And that’s the billion-dollar question isn’t it. What is the federal government going to do with all that ammo? Why do they need it? Why are they buying it? It’s unprecedented. Are we on the cusp of physical domination by the United States Federal Government? And, if so, how will the American people react?

The talk show host also asked me, “If the people were to rebel, how could they ever possibly hope to prevail against a government so big, so huge, so powerful and so ruthless?”

He had a good point.

I mean, let’s face it: they have Predator drones, spy satellites, and sophisticated online surveillance and communication systems. How could the American people ever hope to prevail in a fighting war?

Sure, we barely prevailed over the British in our original war for independence, but that was different. Great Britain was based thousands of miles away, and it took 30 days to cross the Atlantic. That was a huge benefit to the colonists. We no longer have that. The federal government is right here, right now, and firmly cemented into state and local law enforcement. The talk show host argued there was no hope of prevailing over a government so massive and powerful.

Was he right?

I brought up the Taliban and the Viet Cong as recent examples of how to defeat a large military in a techno-driven war. In the end, the Taliban will win, just as the Viet Cong did. In truth, only three percent of the colonists actively fought against the British in our war for independence. But three percent was enough.

But the big question is this: Are there still three percent of the American population with the courage and resolve to fight against an out-of-control, tyrannical government? My short answer is: I think so.

Of course, we all have our lines in the sand.

1. I will fight when they force gun registration. 2. I will fight when they come for my guns. 3. I will fight when they come for me.

No matter where you fall on that list, it puts you in the precarious position of defying the all-powerful Obama of Oz. Who is the man behind the curtain, pulling the strings, calling the shots, planning out the final moves to dismantle our liberty?

Is it Barack Obama or some other unseen dark and evil minion?

I don’t know.


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To: True Grit

Have you not payed attention to the California cop incident or Boston? Way over rated. We have retired soldiers and hunters in this country that will seriously hurt their egos.


41 posted on 05/06/2013 2:44:17 PM PDT by DeWalt
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To: True Grit
"“If the people were to rebel, how could they ever possibly hope to prevail against a government so big, so huge, so powerful and so ruthless?” "

If all the makers revolt, the takers will eventually be brought down. Unsustainability.

42 posted on 05/06/2013 2:45:18 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: True Grit

“Great Britain was based thousands of miles away, and it took 30 days to cross the Atlantic. That was a huge benefit to the colonists. We no longer have that. The federal government is right here, right now, and firmly cemented into state and local law enforcement.”

This is only a disadvantage for the unimaginative. The Federal government is right here, right now, which means they have nowhere to run from the citizenry, if it comes to that. We all know where they live, but they will not necessarily know where the citizens that would come for them live.


43 posted on 05/06/2013 2:45:34 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Terry L Smith

rend?


44 posted on 05/06/2013 2:46:12 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: True Grit
the answer is yes. American soldiers will fire on citizens. Just like cops will fire and murder civilians. The "Oath Keepers" are both a joke and a list for the purges in the armed forces and special operations police. The "Oath Keepers" will never be allowed security clearances and I'd wager that an Oath Keeper will never command a special operations unit within the US Military. At least not on active duty with a hope of becoming a flag officer.

With the military essentially becoming an experiment in social studies with homosexuals, women and miscreants being allowed to command... while aggressive soldiers with a Christian moral compass are being discouraged, dismissed, and prosecuted... you can bet that in 3-4 years that most will just "follow orders".

The veteran's strike in the past had the US Army kill former vets and it wasn't half as screwed up as the current flag officers are now.

It's all about keeping "your pension" and "benefits". That's the reason health care and education are the final lynchpins to be engulfed by the "government" and the weasels that make up the bureaucracy. If you can't have health care and your kids will not be able to get an educations to obtain the proper paperwork on the resume, well let me tell you , it's going to be tough flipping burgers without the correct mindset. Heck , even now the police chief of a Florida city wants those that criticize the government to be "reported".

Like I said before, I'm not worried about my kids other than they're going to have it a lot tougher than I had, but at least they have a grounding in Christ, good work ethic and are able to read a manual in order to operate a machine. The slaves that make up the national socialist democrat party are now stuck with no prospect other than to sit in their hovels, pray for the check to show up, watch cable sports and wonder why some people are "so lucky" that they have time and money.

The boot will be on their throat and they don't even know it......yet.

You know what the REAL scandal about the abortion murder trial is? Or even the other "clinics" that are killing infants? The real scandal that Fox, CBS, etc... will NEVER cover is ..... what is the predominant RACE of the babies being aborted? hahahahahahaha.... just beautiful.

The idiot race warriors are signing their death warrants and the "fight for immigration" that the black minority is helping just shows how brainwashed they are. I'd like someone to ask them who 20 million hispanics hate more... whites or blacks? Los Angeles is going to resemble Beirut in a couple of more election cycles. Little private enclaves separated by race and money.

45 posted on 05/06/2013 2:46:51 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat they sh#t on.)
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To: True Grit

Will the military ‘serve’ 0bama, like Demi Moore and crew PLEDGED to do in 2008?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2177085/posts?page=25


46 posted on 05/06/2013 2:47:03 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: True Grit
Will American Soldiers Fire on U.S. Citizens?

Yes. Our history confirms that answer.

5.56mm

47 posted on 05/06/2013 2:48:47 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: True Grit

They always have in the past.


48 posted on 05/06/2013 2:49:36 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Bryanw92

“Our enemy has a supply line that at his fingertips,”

Same one we’ve got.


49 posted on 05/06/2013 2:51:04 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: Boogieman
"The federal government is right here, right now, and firmly cemented into state and local law enforcement.”

Firmly cemented? Except for hundreds of county sheriffs who signed a letter that they wouldn't enforce new Fed gun control. Except for the state of Kansas that passed new laws saying they wouldn't accept Fed enforcement of gun laws. Except for new laws in Texas that defy Fed gun control enforcement. That cement seems a little shaky to me.

50 posted on 05/06/2013 2:51:23 PM PDT by TigersEye (If babies had guns they wouldn't be aborted)
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To: JimSEA
The USA is now in more of a civil war position. The problem here is that the South was very well trained and armed.

Should it come to that, it will NOT be like it was in 1861. IMO there will be no division by state.... Red vs. Blue. It will be more like the civil wars in Africa and Eastern Europe. Pockets of supporters of either side are well mixed throughout the nation.

It'll be REALLY ugly.

51 posted on 05/06/2013 2:51:57 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: SnakeDoctor

you keep thining that and he’ll own you and your family, say hail to the chief.


52 posted on 05/06/2013 2:52:08 PM PDT by bigshep
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To: True Grit

“Will American Soldiers Fire on U.S. Citizens?”

Interesting question. Too bad the author did not even address it.

Note that the US military & domestic security are NOT the same.

I seriously doubt the US military will follow illegal orders to make war on US citizens on US soil.


53 posted on 05/06/2013 2:52:11 PM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Bryanw92

Of course there would be traitors. But still, he fact remains, they have to secure everything. Can they leave their bases with normal gate guards and a force that is designed to deal with drunken PFCs? That invites attacks on families and support troops.

How about staging areas? Of course, everywhere they go, they need a large securit element.
And which of their own troops must they worry about?

One drone builder, or MRE factory gets attacked,, several workers at the Hellfire plant get carjacked on the same afternoon,etc. So contractors scream for military protection. America is big,,, very big.

Meanwhile,,think back to Boston. how much commerce happened on lockdown day? The economy starts hurting,,, badly.

Pressure builds as the efforts begin to interfere with the basic functions of a city. (does your city have airlines? it wouldnt during this)

Civil wars are nasty, murderous, nightmarish, and deeply personal. Everything i mention is happening a short drive from Texas TODAY. Simply glance at Mexico. No, the US military cannot win in a war with its own people. This is by design,,, no matter how much the socialists wish it could.


54 posted on 05/06/2013 2:52:12 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: True Grit

crystal ball says there will be some blood spilled of cops, US military and civilians but it will be short lived because the uniformed Americans will soon realize that the real enemy is the government for whom they falsely serve. They will realize that it is not about securing law and order, our safety and saving individual lives but it is about saving our country and our freedom which will ensure law and order, our safety and our freedom. If the government is doing what is good for the American people, why do they have to lie to the people about what they do??


55 posted on 05/06/2013 2:53:37 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"Since gun confiscation is always a prelude to extermination, might as well go down fighting. "

Youngsters (even here) love to diss BabyBoomers, but who is most likely to go down fighting?

56 posted on 05/06/2013 2:54:21 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

>>Comment: Now a question I have not seen posed: Will U.S. Citizens fire on the military?

Since gun confiscation is always a prelude to extermination, might as well go down fighting.<<

Don’t fire on the military unless they are wearing at least one star on their collar. Aim for a business suit in the state’s capitol city offices first because the order won’t happen without their concession and approval.


57 posted on 05/06/2013 2:54:35 PM PDT by B4Ranch (http://www.theycometoamerica.com/)
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To: Defiant
" If the left is smart, they go slow for a decade or two"

If so, then they are in a race with the muzzies.

58 posted on 05/06/2013 2:56:13 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: 21twelve

If it gets to the point where you have to take up arms against the government, you really don’t have the luxury to worry about how they’re going to label you, do you? You’ll be labelled a traitor, one way or the other.


59 posted on 05/06/2013 2:57:11 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Bryanw92
3% was enough for fighting an enemy with a 2000 mile supply chain that had to cross a dangerous ocean in sailing ships. Our enemy has a supply line that at his fingertips, along with all the armored motorized transport he needs.

my FRiend, a civil war in this country at this time would be the most horrific thing imaginable. There will be no front lines. The 2000 mile supply chain is better than having your family and loved ones living among "the enemy". Once the first children and parents are killed then I can assure you that there will be no safe haven, no amount of curfew or travel limitations to prevent the absolute blood bath that will occur once the tipping point happens.

There is a built up hatred that is almost palpable online and in conversations with WOMEN and educated men that scare me. My grandfather fought in the Mexican civil war and told us stories about what happened. Not fairy tales but stories about men hung on telegraph poles leading up to certain cities, of churches being burned with people inside and of the infamous "knock at the door" at night.

Anybody that thinks a 'civil war' will be some Confederate reenactment should look at what the Serbs, Croats and Bosnians did to each other and multiply it by MILLIONS. We would pray for the days of high taxes and listening to liberals whine. The liberals would be gone but the remaining thugs will be what all "liberals" are at their core... "hard hearted, non-Christian, thugs who rule by force and have no compunction about killing or love of life". They are the "true believers" who fake tears at funerals, kill young girls and whine about how it affects your political career and use a family members death as a "talking point".

60 posted on 05/06/2013 2:59:21 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat they sh#t on.)
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