Connecting possible dots. Avoiding "failure of imagination."
To: Seizethecarp
Occam's razor says it was a cargo-shift.
2 posted on
05/02/2013 8:46:32 AM PDT by
E. Pluribus Unum
(Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to behead anyone who says otherwise.)
To: Seizethecarp
There’s probably enough footage of this to be able to say yes or no.
3 posted on
05/02/2013 8:46:56 AM PDT by
stuartcr
("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
To: Seizethecarp
No, it looks like a cargo shift..
4 posted on
05/02/2013 8:48:26 AM PDT by
cardinal4
(Constitution? What Constitution?)
To: Travis McGee
5 posted on
05/02/2013 8:48:26 AM PDT by
null and void
(Republicans create the tools of oppression and Democrats use them. Gun confiscation enables tyranny.)
To: Seizethecarp
AR-15 in the trunk of the plane obviously....sheesh. They had the guys on live when cargo shift was mentioned before the 747 hit the earth.
It even LOOKS like cargo shift....happened just like this in the 90s in FL.
7 posted on
05/02/2013 8:52:38 AM PDT by
DCBryan1
To: Seizethecarp
They could do this by mining the Bagram runway with autonomous GPS-guided multi-copters placed exactly where they would collide with each jet turbine as the 747-400 passed through the RKZ of the Bagram runway.
What a nut to claim that happened. What the video. There was no engine failure.
Crash: National Air Cargo B744 at Bagram on Apr 29th 2013, lost height shortly after takeoff
http://avherald.com/h?article=46183bb4&opt=0
8 posted on
05/02/2013 8:52:52 AM PDT by
thackney
(life is fragile, handle with prayer)
To: Seizethecarp
If you watch the video is pretty obvious they were climbing at too steep of an angle and the plane simply stalled.
To: Seizethecarp
From the video I’ve seen it looks like an extremely high angle of ascent combined with a possible cargo shift. There was no smoke or obvious damage to the plane before it crashed.
15 posted on
05/02/2013 9:04:42 AM PDT by
cripplecreek
(REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
To: Seizethecarp
According to a listener on frequency the crew reported the aircraft stalled due to a possible load shift.
19 posted on
05/02/2013 9:13:03 AM PDT by
TSgt
(More Scott Roeders and fewer Tillers and Gosnells)
To: Seizethecarp
This is the second time you've posted a drone-takes-down-plane theory with the exact same comment.
Smells like a blog pimp to me!
20 posted on
05/02/2013 9:15:12 AM PDT by
rarestia
(It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
To: Seizethecarp
It’s a stall.
Something like this happened to a small commuter jet a few years back, if I remember correctly.
The cause of that commuter accident was incorrect center-of-gravity loading.
I’m betting it’s the same thing here.
And - perhaps Boeing changed the design, but I do not remember 747-400 having the rather normal nose profile that I think I’m seeing in that movie (not that the type of plane matters...if one Obamas up the CG, any plane will perform like liberal economists do).
To: Seizethecarp
The video on the TV news last night was awsome but so deadly to see such a huge aircraft fall out of the sky. Another sad day for families of the dead crew.
To: Seizethecarp
It certainly looked like a stall, although that may have been exaggerated by the camera angle.
39 posted on
05/02/2013 10:16:05 AM PDT by
Cheerio
(Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
To: Seizethecarp
except the video soundtrack captures the roar of the engines spooled up to the max. Furthermore an engine taken out by something in the compressor would be sending out bursts of flame and smoke in profuse quantity, especially if it was a full power (as it would be, especially at that airport). None of that appears in the vid.
This accident probably left the black boxes fully recoverable, so real data should be available to the accident investigators soon. No need to pander to knee-jerk conspiracy theorists about hypothetical GPS drone attacks.
The typical consumer grade quadcopter probably doesn't have enough mass to constitute a serious threat anyway. I bet a golden BB attack would have a higher probability of success.
40 posted on
05/02/2013 10:16:46 AM PDT by
no-s
(when democracy is displaced by tyranny, the armed citizen still gets to vote)
To: Seizethecarp
Is runway kill blog yours?
45 posted on
05/02/2013 10:43:53 AM PDT by
Lx
(Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
To: Seizethecarp
Even before the video centered on the plane the 747 was already in mid stall.
Sure looks like a cargo shift accident to me...not that I have seen too many.
I have flown RC planes with the CG way too far aft...looks just like the video.
58 posted on
05/02/2013 1:58:46 PM PDT by
hattend
(Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
To: Seizethecarp
The black box will have the engine telemetry so this can be proved or disproved easily
65 posted on
05/02/2013 8:25:41 PM PDT by
tophat9000
(American is Barack Oaken)
To: Yosemitest
67 posted on
05/03/2013 9:07:11 AM PDT by
Seizethecarp
((Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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