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Feinstein Argues Assault Weapons Substantially Deadlier
The American Spectator ^ | March 7, 2013 | Luca Gattoni-Celli

Posted on 03/09/2013 1:52:51 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

“I don’t know why anyone would object to drying up the supply of these weapons over time,” Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) said in defending her assault weapons ban proposal, asserting that “while gun homicides are down in this country, mass shootings are not.” For her this created a rationale for banning high-capacity magazines and assault weapons such as the AR-15, a semi-automatic variant of the M-16, which she said have a natural appeal to mass shooters. She also argued that the ergonomic “military features” which distinguished assault weapons make them uniquely lethal.

“Members, this isn’t going to stop … and we have a chance to do something about it,” she concluded. Feinstein singled out the “Slide Fire” stock accessory, which dramatically increases the fire rate of a semi-automatic rifle. By implication, it is only a matter of time before the system is used to spray a crowd of innocent people with bullets, though Feinstein did not address the point that mass shootings and assault weapons are both rare....

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: assaultweaponsban; awb; banglist; california; democrats; feinstein; guncontrol; secondamendment
It's just a coincidence that assault-style weapons would probably be the most useful if the government became excessivly repressive, right?
1 posted on 03/09/2013 1:52:51 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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Here’s what she’s talking about:

Simulated Automatic Fire AR-15 – The Slide Fire SSAR-15
http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/slide-fire-solutions-ssar-15-bump-fire-device-ar-15/


2 posted on 03/09/2013 1:58:44 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t see any utility in the Slide Fire SSAR-15, other than making a lot of noise. Even for a psychopath who wants to make the news as a mass killer, it looks like a chance to jam the weapon after fewer aimed shots, or to waste ammo with fewer shots hitting a person. I would be far more concerned about a trained shooter with a stack of 10 to 30 round magazines (clips for those who have never touched an evil 12 gauge AAK-47 fully-automatic assault shotgun) than about a moron with a Slide Fire SSAR-15 and carrying an equal weight in 100 round drums.

They should not be banned - the Second Amendment means what it says - but I can’t see why anyone would want one.


3 posted on 03/09/2013 2:18:42 AM PST by Pollster1
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Did she get up there and cry and wring her hands about the ‘devastation’ she saw as a SF Supervisor when the whole Harvey Milk thing happened? Oh the carnage, the disaster....with the ‘assault’.....er, uh, REVOLVER used.


4 posted on 03/09/2013 2:40:21 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

Then why do so many assassins use small caliber firearms (often .22) and shoot their victims behind the ear? They would be considered pea shooters compared to the other firearms. They kill just as effectively as an AR-15 when used “correctly”. Ms. Feinstein needs to be educated.


5 posted on 03/09/2013 3:55:38 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It just might be that Americans love freedom from both internal and external governments. Maybe she ought to look in a mirror and ask herself if it’s right for her to tell people what to do just because she thinks it’s right. There are pro’s and con’s to every issue, but what is right for one person is not right for another. America is about people having a choice, not government rule in all aspects of life. Current intrusions into our private lives are at a level I never would have imagined 50 years ago when books like 1984 and Brave New World represented the future we feared, not one we embraced.


6 posted on 03/09/2013 3:56:29 AM PST by Boomer One
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"the M-16, which she said have a natural appeal to mass shooters. She also argued that the ergonomic “military features” which distinguished assault weapons make them uniquely lethal."

Really? In Viet Nam, Carlos Hathcock had more kills with a Winchester 70 .30-06 rifle than any grunt did with a M-16 during the entire war. This is the exact same rifle millions of hunters used to hunt deer with for decades. Feinstein doesn't have a clue what she's talking about.

7 posted on 03/09/2013 4:01:30 AM PST by circlecity
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s like listening to your aunt talk about the 3-4 defense. In the end she hasn’t got a clue.


8 posted on 03/09/2013 4:32:36 AM PST by relictele
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If one were to stand up to the Senator and suggest to ease the ability to put mentally deranged people into state mental facilities....she’d likely have a heart attack when you suggested such an action.

But the truth is....there are probably 150k Americans who are a daily threat to society and innocent Americans. It ought to be a simple ‘path’ for society to identify the individuals....have them tested...and then put away so that they wouldn’t harm anyone.

The same enthusiasm that the Senator shows now...ought to be there to put the ‘crazies’ into a better and safer place.


9 posted on 03/09/2013 4:58:50 AM PST by pepsionice
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” The same enthusiasm that the Senator shows now...ought to be there to put the ‘crazies’ into a better and safer place.”

Sure, until she finds a legal way to declare you ‘a danger to yourself or society’ and has you locked away for having a Cabella’s catalog with pictures of guns in it. A very slippery slope, this.


10 posted on 03/09/2013 5:08:52 AM PST by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: Pollster1

” I would be far more concerned about a trained shooter with a stack of 10 to 30 round magazines (clips for those who have never touched an evil 12 gauge AAK-47 fully-automatic assault shotgun) than about a moron with a Slide Fire SSAR-15 and carrying an equal weight in 100 round drums.”

Agree. Actually, the probability of these high capacity magazines malfunctioning is pretty high. Case in point; I believe the Colorado movie theater shooter, James Holmes, entered the theater with a 100 round drum magazine locked in his weapon and thankfully it jammed on him. Just a side note, the reason the U.S. military, during WWII, discontinued the drum magazine for the Thompson was due to its propensity to malfunction - plus it was heavy. Anyway, agree that there should not be a limit on magazine capacity but, at least for me, there’s a practical and functional limit that I heed.


11 posted on 03/09/2013 5:18:20 AM PST by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hey Di Fi! Dead is dead!


12 posted on 03/09/2013 5:18:58 AM PST by basil (basil, 2ASisters.org)
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To: jsanders2001

My point was that the revolver used was just as deadly as what she ooga-boogas now. I don’t know any assassins but I’ll take your word on it. Bone thinest behind the ear I think, and the 22 likely not gonna come out the other side. No muss, no fuss.


13 posted on 03/09/2013 5:28:53 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Conceding the notion that there is such a thing as an “assault weapon” available to the consumer (as opposed to a “weapon” that can never be used to assault anyone — a nerf bat?), can we then imagine that some speech protected by the first amendment can be termed “assault speech,” like, say, proposals to usurp the second amendment, and thus should be “REGISTERED”—??

Did Feinstein get her license before proposing all this muck?

And where do I get my license to prevent troops from living in my house with me?


14 posted on 03/09/2013 5:31:25 AM PST by PaleoBob
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I don’t know why anyone would object to drying up the supply of these weapons over time

After the weapons, "I don't know why anyone would object to a tracking device being implanted so we could locate them if they got lost". Then, "I don't know why anyone would object to being relocated.......etc."

We need the same weapons the state needs. During the cold war we used a strategy called MAD. It kept the Soviets from taking away our rights.

15 posted on 03/09/2013 6:07:26 AM PST by Starstruck (I need a 30 round magazine because liberal whine gives me a buzz.)
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16 posted on 03/09/2013 6:13:48 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It has always been about handguns. Assault rifles are just a decoy to try and get their anti-gun foot in the door.

Once they get a ban on AWs then they will use the same reasons to go after handguns.

John Kennedy killed with a 5 shot bolt action rifle.

Charles Whitman, killed 14, wounded 32 others mostly with a bolt action 6mm hunting rifle. Also used a shotgun and an m1 carbine.

Medgar Evers, shot with a 5 shot 1917 bolt action Enfield rifle.

Martin Luther King, shot with a 4 shot Remington 760 pump action Gamemaster rifle.

Bobby Kennedy with a .22 Iver Johnson Cadet revolver.

George Wallace wounded with a 5 shot Charter Arms .38spl revolver.

Howard Johnsons shooter killed nine, wounded thirteen with a 4 shot RUGER .44 mag Deerslayer rifle.

Gerald Ford attacked with a 7 shot 1911 semi auto.

Edmond OK post office with two National Guard 7 shot 1911 pistols.

Ronald Reagan and Jim Brady with an RG-14 .22 revolver.

What do they all have in common? NONE over 7 rounds, yet after each one came a cry of panic to ban all of them.

The latest incidents have smoked the antis out of their holes and we now see their real agenda is a TOTAL BAN on firearms.

In 1968, Americans, who were mostly hunters at that time, were blindsided by the 1968 Gun Control Act.

Today, most Americans are recreational shooters and are HOPPING MAD! They will not go softly into that good night.


17 posted on 03/09/2013 7:36:30 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (CLICK my name. See the murals before they are painted over! POTEET THEATER in OKC!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Liberals truly believe that the government should have an absolute monopoly on power because they believe that the government will always bee good and that power will only be used against “bad” people.


18 posted on 03/09/2013 11:46:42 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (There is no requirement to show need in order to exercise your rights.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good for wasting ammo. The military eliminated the full auto function from their M16A1 for the semi-auto and 3-shot burst of the newer versions.


19 posted on 03/09/2013 11:51:43 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (There is no requirement to show need in order to exercise your rights.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
DiFi: “...military features” which distinguished assault weapons make them uniquely lethal.”

And those lethal unique features would be drive-by: (1) bayonetings, (2) rifle grenadings, (3) pistol grippings, (4) flash suppressorings, and (5) high cap magazine batterings.

OK, that must be it. Right?

(Sound of crickets chirping.)

20 posted on 03/09/2013 9:51:28 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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