Posted on 02/23/2013 8:25:14 PM PST by Rig4Dive
The Washington Post and the Wall Street Journal report that President Obama and at least 8 Senators are now calling for a National ID Card, with a computer chip and other biometric features...
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It's worthless for flying out of the country, even to Canada, Mexico or the Caribbean. Surface travel only.
I love it....Obama voters can’t figure out how to get an I.D. card, free, from their DMV so they can vote...but now a National I.D. card will be mandatory....but how will they be able to get to the I.D. center????if they’re disabled, will someone come to their homes????if they’re unemployed, will someone else pay their way to the office???I think that we need a new program to insure that all people can get to the I.D. office to get their cards!!
Have you noticed all the positive reports being put out on Ben Affleck? He’s got some sex and drugs stories that will be coming out WHEN he runs for the senate so the media is creating a “new” person. There’s your background checks on politicians.
If they pass amnesty they won’t mind if it’s required to vote.
Course they’d say it’s a state issue as states are in charge of determining how their citizens vote.
“WHAT IF IT CAN BE USED FOR VOTER ID? U know the Dems will be against it.”
I think it is a great idea. Call it, wait for it... A passport. It’s your voter ID, divers license, passport, birth certificate, death certificate and social security card. Put a biometric in it for additional security and to prevent fraud.
Invasion of privacy? The alternative is more Obama’s.
“Show me your papers” tactics are associated with totalitarian regimes, not Free Republics.
Oh say does that star spangled banner yet wave
o’er the land of the free . . . . . . . ?
The government wants whatever you and I work and earn for ourselves because that's what governments do. It doesn't think we are entitled to anything it doesn't give us after first taking everything we have, then telling us what we will get, if it doesn't change its mind!
Doesn't anyone besides me, think the government is way far out of kilter?
It is "we the people" who are the real owners of this country (as Clint Eastwood so eloquently pointed out at the RNC Convention) and we'd best be about trimming "the government" Leviathian down to the only size proscribed by those who knew what an enemy a government would become, if given the chance.
Our founders knew that a government with boundless "rights" over its citizenry would become a dictatorship of evil tyrants!
I, for one, think that is exactly what we have!
This is something that a free nation DOES NOT NEED!!
An ENSLAVED nation, howeverm requires it so the tyrants can sleep well at night knowing exactly where the slaves are!!
This is something that a free nation DOES NOT NEED!!
An ENSLAVED nation, however, requires it so the tyrants can sleep well at night knowing exactly where the slaves are!!
I already have one. It's called a passport.
If it's good enough for all the other countries on the planet, why isn't it good enough here?
Let's require all voters to show a passport to vote.
In fact, that was one of my first vanities back in 2001 or 2002, but sadly it was lost in one of the early database crashes.
-PJ
No National ID ever, if you have a hope of saving this country!
Trading our rights to a bunch of liars and crooks for the promise of controlling our borders and preventing further invasion by foreign governments is making a bargain with Satan!
Satan was a liar in the Garden of Eden and he still is the father of lies!
Trading our natural rights to tyrants will not ever give us the security promised under the Constitution!
We are now living under martial law and we are about to lose what little freedom we have left in a very short time.
And what’s the point?
We have a Birth Certificate, Social Security Cards, Driver’s Licenses and Passports. We have a President with dubious Birth Certificates, Illegals who freely use stolen or forged Social Security Cards, and Libtard States who issue State Drivers’s licenses. With these bogus documents, anyone can get a US Passport.
So, if Congress decides to mandate yet another form of ID, it’s just a matter of months before the libtards demand that Illegal Aliens be granted this ID card too.
Yes and if it would be required to be used to prevent voter fraud it would never be passed.
The voter ID requirement is the poison pill for Federal ID.
“Biometric features” today, a list of all your registered weapons and ammunition purchases tomorrow, and, by accepting the ID, automatic implied consent to allow the sheriff to search your house the day after tomorrow.
Fair question - no. You need to have a transmitter and a battery to do this. It takes considerable power to provide this information; most of your cell phone is battery - any chip would need to have a large and continuously rechargeable battery to keep track of you over your life.
What do they mean by “biometric”
Good question. Biometric means that "You" are measured. It can be a measurement of your fingerprints, perhaps a retina scan, or something like Disney uses for Seasonal Pass holders. They take a biometric reading of your right hand - specifically the index and middle finger. This could be measurements of your finger bones, ratio of bones to knuckles, overall length of fingers, ratio between fingers, ratio of joints to joints. It's possible your sister or cousin may "look" like you; but does her hand match yours in this regard? Biometrics use these things that are unique to you - and incorporate them into your personal ID. As we age, or grow; these ratios tend to stay pretty consistent.
Fair question - no. You need to have a transmitter and a battery to do this. It takes considerable power to provide this information; most of your cell phone is battery - any chip would need to have a large and continuously rechargeable battery to keep track of you over your life.
I agree you would not be GPS trackable, but you would be trackable by a series of RFID sensors. These can have ranges which are substantially larger than you think. Hundreds of yards. They can be placed along roads and highways, and you could be tracked pretty much anywhere in an urban environment.
You can defeat the sensors by placing the card in a faraday cage (any metal can will do and in a pinch wrapping it in aluminum foil would be sufficient).
Passports already have RFID chips and companies sell special bags and wallets to carry them in. I prefer a metal can (think overgrown Altoids can) which I think is much safer.
The National-ID card could have blue-tooth. Oh Boy! Then I wouldn’t need all those different usernames and passwords any more...I could just wave my wallet at my computer and VOILA....logged on everywhere with my very own personal NID. Of course, being anonymous would be a casualty. It would be forever lost, relegated to the history books, part of the rich fabric, legend and lore of the internet story. On second thought.....
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