It’s difficult to overcome the hurdle and state Obama was not born in Hawaii when you’ve got a signed affidavit from the mother, delivery doctor and hospital admin attesting to the fact a live birth took place on Aug. 4, 1961 in Hawaii. And the attestation was made within a few days of the event. Also, the affidavit of a live birth was “accepted” by a registrar of the HDOH.
It’s time to accept the fact Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961. If you believe natural born citizenship status is held in perpetuity and can never be lost, taken away, renounced or dismissed, then Obama is eligible for POTUS and always will be.
I’ve always believed U.S. citizenship and natural born citizenship status is precarious for anyone, regardless of age, who moves out of the country and naturalizes in a foreign state or maintains dual citizenship. A careful review of Vance v. Terrazas demonstrates how precarious citizenship status can be for a U.S Citizen who moves out of the country and renounces their U.S. Citizenship before any tribunal or administrative body.
Terrazas renounced his U.S. Citizenship before Mexican officials and never renounced it before U.S. officials. Yet, the SoS issued him a Certificate of Loss of Nationality. The U.S. District Court ruled in favor of the SoS. The Appeals Court overturned the U.S. District Court. And SCOTUS, in 1980, reversed and remanded the Appeals Court. In 1986, Congress amended the INA to comply with the 1980, Vance v. Terrazas ruling.
We know that Stanley Ann amended her renewal passport in Aug, 1967 to exclude Obama and his St. Francis Assisi enrollment, dated Jan. 1, 1968, indicated Barry Soetoro was an Indonesian National. That’s all it takes for the SoS to issue a Certificate of Loss of Nationality.
Sven, do you realize that Hawaii statute allows the HDOH to totally fabricate a birth certificate if law enforcement claims the registrant needs a fictitious birth certificate in order to be safe?
When that is done the resulting BC has to be assigned a different number than the original BC# that registrant had. This is the only case where somebody can have a BC that has a different BC# than what was given to the BC originally.
We have at least 3 people whose August 1961 BC#’s from the HDOH office cannot be what they were given in 1961, based on either of the 2 contradictory numbering methods described by former and current HDOH spokesmen: Barack Obama, Stig Waidelich, and Virginia Sunahara. If Johanna Ah Nee’s forged BC is really from the HDOH that would be another one (Onaka’s signature doesn’t seem to be right, and the BC# itself has digits overlap, which could not have happened on a genuine BC - but those could be red flags put in by the person at the HDOH who was forced to create the forgery, like the red flags described below. I suspect that BC did come from the HDOH but it is another forgery that Fuddy forced her workers to create and which they resisted; see below. If this came from the HDOH then we have FOUR Aug 1961 BC#’s that the HDOH has falsified).
Onaka has indirectly confirmed that Obama’s Hawaii birth record is not legally valid, and Virginia Sunahara’s death certificate has 3 blatant signs of forgery within the same line that has the handwritten, anomalous BC#: the abbreviation T. H. (which stands for Territory of Hawaii), unmatching fonts between T.H. and FILE NO, and FILE and NO being misaligned with T.H. It took extra effort to put in those glaring signs of forgery, so somebody at the HDOH is taking time to make sure that death certificate is recognized as a forgery from the HDOH.
In addition, I have proven that the HDOH specifically added non-valid names to their 1960-64 birth index.
The evidence is mounting to the inescapable conclusion that the HDOH is fabricating and manipulating BC#’s, vital records, the database, and their birth index list (as well as violating a ton of laws) in order to give Obama a fabricated BC - presumably because it is necessary for his “safety”.
When a BC is fabricated at the request of law enforcement, it will claim whatever law enforcement (Eric Holder?) says it needs to say. Just like BC’s are fabricated after an adoption, when a court tells the HDOH what the new BC has to say. It will be fabricated to include signatures of all the people who would have signed if the birth really happened that way. It will show processing dates that claim the record existed from the very beginning. Etc. It is totally fabricated; it has no resemblance to the truth whatsoever.
But even with the ability to create a totally fake BC, what Obama got from the HDOH had to be altered in order to get the image posted on the White House website. That is confirmed by Alvin Onaka, who when asked would not verify that the White House image is a “true and accurate representation of the original record on file” or that the information in the White House image is “identical to” the information in the original record on file. The two certifying elements of Alvin Onaka in the White House image each contain a red flag similar to the red flags put in the HDOH-forged Sunahara death certificate: TXE instead of THE in the certifying statement, and a smiley face added to the signature.
With the evidence we have right now, it would be legally negligent to claim that Obama was born in Hawaii. Onaka cannot verify any of Obama’s birth facts, because there is no legally valid record claiming those birth facts. Instead, what we’ve got appears to be mutiny in the HDOH office, where Loretta Fuddy is requiring HDOH workers to break the laws and the office workers are resisting by putting in red flags.
There is no “legal hurdle” and the evidence all says, instead, that Loretta Fuddy is in on criminal records manipulation to hide Obama’s non-valid birth record - and people in her staff are putting in red flags to expose what she has done. It’s no wonder that the presumably non-complicit interim HDOH Director Neal Palafox was forced to resign (though the system lied to hide that they forced him to) right at the time that the “safety” issue was being exploited from the assassination of Judge John Roll in AZ (where an eligibility bill was imminent, that Abercrombie had said he feared - shortly before telling a Star-Advertiser columnist that an investigation had found something “actually written down” in the “archives” and telling his friend Mike Evans that there was no BC for Obama in HI). Judge Roll is the judge who would have heard the DOJ’s challenge of an AZ eligibility bill, and he was replaced by an Obama appointee. That assassination had key information that changed over time (with part of the investigation under the control of Sheriff Clarence Dupnik, who immediately used the shooting to blame “The Tea Party”, etc - as did Janet Napolitano... and the other part under the control of Eric Holder’s DOJ), the shooter was known by the military installation (that handles mind control research and creation of unsuspecting assassins) to have mental problems and to have used drugs - IOW, the perfect person to use as an unwitting assassin because if he said he heard voices telling him to do the assassination it would be attributed to schizophrenia. And the shooter was familiar and had posted on Facebook about mind control techniques. Another ex-military guy who was at the scene of the shooting was also familiar with mind control techniques.
Sigh. There’s just too much evidence/information to get into one post. The timeline of events is really incriminating when you see it all in context. But a person really doesn’t even need to know all that. All you need to know is that Onaka had to use the words male, Aug 4, 1961, Honolulu, Oahu, Stanley Ann Dunham, and Barack Hussein Obama in his letter of verification if he could verify any of those claims as existing on a valid BC - and he didn’t.
First of all, it might help you to understand that I ignore all the forgeries, our research followed the people. The documents are untrustworthy.
What we know is that Stanley Ann Dunham wasn't in Hawaii until we see her with a three year old at the zoo. The student enrolled for the Fall of 1960 at the U of HI was probably named S ANN OBAMA shown in the Polk, living at the birth announcement address. S. ANN OBAMA has been melded with STANLEY ANN DUNHAM to create a COMPOSITE.
S ANN OBAMA shows up in Seattle as ANNA OBAMA in the directory for 1961-1962 - and Mary babysat her child in January 1961. Stanley Ann Dunham obtained custody of an unidentifed child (zero) through her fantasy divorce from the kenyan student, whose 'wife' left little Barack Hussein Obama 11 behind when she moved to the Philippines, and that same boy, born in Hawaii in January, ended up in Kenya with Ruth and his father. There couldn't be two Barack Hussein Obama 11 so when we were shown photographs of him, they named him David.
Malik says he played with 'BARACK' when they were both children, (whilst living with Ruth and his father in Nairobi,) Malik says 'Barack taught school in Uganda' - Clan members describe seeing 'Barack' at the funeral of his father in 1982.
Barack Hussein Obama 11 had a life after he left the US in 1964, and that life didn't include becoming President. Isn't anyone the slightest bit interested in who he is and where he might be now?
P.S. I remain intruiged that no one questions why, if zero was adopted in Hawaii (before moving to Indonesia) if his stepfather's name was Soetoro, how did his name become SOEBARKAH?
Much of what you write is probably correct, but the foundation, if based on lies and forgeries is worthless. Discussing if zero is a natural-born citizen is a waste of time imo...not while you don't know who his parents were or where he was born.
Follow the research from THE DAILY PEN. That allows you to follow Virginia Sunahara from the Wahiawa Hospital to Kapiolani, where the examining doctor attended her before she died. The research shows the movements of that child and attributes the movement to zero. Read it carefully, it's fairly obvious why that might be imo.
We know that Stanley Ann amended her renewal passport in Aug, 1967 to exclude BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA SOEBARKAH...
NOT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA SOETORO.
If he was adopted in Hawaii before he went to Indonesia, how did he end up with a step-father named Soetoro AND the name SOEBARKAH?
Who adopted him? Who was SOEBARKAH? This family perhaps?:
With whom was he living when as LIA said, after she had been with the Soetoro family for something like TWO YEARS Stanley Ann went away 'somewhere' to pick him up and bring him back as a 'brother' for LIA?
Was that event in any way connected to the overthrow of SUKARNO in 1966? How soon after the fantasy divorce in March 1964 did zero leave Hawaii? Who with?
Why can't we see the original application for a passport made by Stanley Ann Dunham in July, 1965?
Why didn't Scott Inoue's mother remember that her son attended kindergarten in Hawaii with Scott - why didn't she have the photograph of them supposedly together in kindergarten for 1966-67?
Why didn't Mrs Nordyke show a kindergarten photograph of the twins with zero?
How likely is it that Stanley Ann Dunham went all the way to Hawaii to pick up little zero and bring him to Indonesia in late 1967 so he could start school in January 1968. Not very likely, as she had his name removed from her passport in 1967. But it is likely that she 'picked him up' from somewhere in Indonesia. Where from? With whom had he been living?
iirc, LIA ran away from home when she was seven in 1964, she maintained she was 'adopted' by Lolo and Stanley Ann - before little Barry showed up. There are too many gaps and questions, to tie this story up in a neat little parcel with forged or fake documents.
We can't ask LIA; she died suddenly, remember?