Posted on 01/19/2013 9:23:55 AM PST by ABrit
.....During the 2008 campaign, Obama admitted Lolo Soetoro was his step-father and he was in Indonesia in 1968 attending elementary school. Lolo Soetoro and Obama's mother, Stanley Ann Dunham-Soetoro, were married in Hawaii in 1965. Obama campaign supporters have consistently and repeatedly insisted Indonesian Law would not allow Obama to be adopted by Lolo Soetoro and he could not be naturalized as an Indonesian citizen because of his age. Furthermore, Obama supporters insist his Indonesian citizenship is irrelevant to his allegience to the United States as a natural born citizen of the United States.
Obama was not adopted in Indonesia. He was adopted by Lolo Soetoro in Hawaii in 1967. When the Soetoro adoption was finalized in 1967, Obama's original long form birth certificate was sealed by order of the Court and archived by the Hawaii Department of Health (HDOH). A sealed vital record is null and void for all future legal or administrative proceedings. In addition to sealing Obama's original long form birth certificate, the Court ordered a Certification of Live Birth (COLB) created and filed by the registrar of HDOH. Lolo Soetoro was listed as the paternal parent for Barry Soetoro for a live birth on August 4, 1961, Honolulu, HI and filed on August 8, 1961.....
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The ‘out of Kenya’ narrative would seem to be an adoptive story to justify being ‘Barack’ and not ‘Barry’ and ‘Obama’ and not ‘Soetoro’ or ‘Dunham’.
Especilly if he never legally became Barack or Obama.
We know that somehow the ‘II’ was dropped - assuming it was legal in 1964.
Kenya may current create a nice ‘honeypot’ to keep people off the trail of issues that are more recent and more damning.
Sven’s curve fits the known data points as well as any presented scenario that address the very murk circumstances from 1965 to 1981.
NO ONE has presented anything that makes any sense of a the period from 1966 to 1972 especially.
How does a child travel internationally without his mother? In 1971 Stanley Ann Dunham arrives in the US in October on an expired passport. Obama was not apparently with her. He claims to have traveled alone months earlier in his (or Bills) book. So how does a child do this.
How does a child live in a country where his father is a native citizen and his mother - by law - must be a citizen and dual citizenship is not allowed. By Indonesian law Obama was 100% Indonesian. Did the US recognize this? Did they issue a CLN? What passport did Obama use to travel during this time after he was removed from his mothers?
It is Hawaii and the State department who are grossly lacking in disclosures that would address this. Grossly.
We need 51%. How do we get the other 15% to understand ... care .. give a rat's patoot?
Bluecat6,
Freepmail incoming :)
We need 51%. How do we get the other 15% to understand ... care .. give a rat's patoot?
When they grow tired of believing in fairy tales, then they'll wake up.
You can ask Fife yourself.
One wonders if anything will come of this?
I don't think so.Find it yourself. It’s all over the internet and there’s been many threads on FR for the past 3 years on the footprint. It’s old news here.
I don’t remember you on all the eligibility threads. If you’d been there for the past 5 years, you’d know already. I don’t have time to go hunt old news down for you. I don’t care if you want to believe it or not. That’s your problem. You’ve already decided I’m an idiot and not to believed no matter if I did take 5 more seconds to look it up on FR so just ask any of the others who have searched out the eligibility all these years.
Alan Keyes has said it never happened. But I know I saw it because I remember watching and seeing that Obama doesn’t say anything definitely incriminating. He just says we are talking about the senate. No doubt as good opposition, Keyes could have read Obama’s bio off that book or article. The bio blurb is far more incriminating because obama most likely vetted it. The debate proved nothing,but it was interesting. It is obvious that at LEAST, Obama wanted to be known as African born.
In the video both men were seated and there were tables in front of them. Oh, I saw it. Don’t know why Keyes said it didn’t happen.
Ok, that must have been it - the link that says the weird angle of that video with them behind podiums. In my years old memory, I pictured them sitting behind. Table because there wasn’t much left of them above the podium. And in my memory he didnt say “so what?” Obama just said the sentence like “we are running for the senate” or “talking about the senate”. I was definitely looking for a smoking gun at the time and was disappointed that it wasn’t a big deal.
But combined with the article and bio book blurb, it is more telling Thani originally thought.
Most telling: that it is scrubbed!!!!!!
Yes, bikeri. I saw the link here on FR. Just like you. I bet a lot of us saw it.
The media, apparently including parts of the Internet, is our enemy.
Sort of. The problem with your provenance theory is that just one of the layers has most of the signatures, etc on it. So stacking layers doesn't explain how that layer was made. Hand drawn? Copied from somewhere? A more coherent theory is that the some doc was scanned, turned into layers, then altered in unknown ways.
The other 64% are lying or not paying attention.
Sort of. He has verified some info (e.g. BHO name and birth time), but not other (e.g. birth date or parents names). I believe his precise words were that the "information matches". Didn't say "all information matches" or "identical" (the latter was asked by some SoS but not answered). So we are left with a paper record of some sort for BHO in the book. We don't know what is on it, but it is pretty clear there is a piece of paper there dating from 1961. It was was likely xeroxed twice and stamped and sealed and carried to the WH. After that we don't know what they did with those copies.
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