Posted on 01/19/2013 9:23:55 AM PST by ABrit
.....During the 2008 campaign, Obama admitted Lolo Soetoro was his step-father and he was in Indonesia in 1968 attending elementary school. Lolo Soetoro and Obama's mother, Stanley Ann Dunham-Soetoro, were married in Hawaii in 1965. Obama campaign supporters have consistently and repeatedly insisted Indonesian Law would not allow Obama to be adopted by Lolo Soetoro and he could not be naturalized as an Indonesian citizen because of his age. Furthermore, Obama supporters insist his Indonesian citizenship is irrelevant to his allegience to the United States as a natural born citizen of the United States.
Obama was not adopted in Indonesia. He was adopted by Lolo Soetoro in Hawaii in 1967. When the Soetoro adoption was finalized in 1967, Obama's original long form birth certificate was sealed by order of the Court and archived by the Hawaii Department of Health (HDOH). A sealed vital record is null and void for all future legal or administrative proceedings. In addition to sealing Obama's original long form birth certificate, the Court ordered a Certification of Live Birth (COLB) created and filed by the registrar of HDOH. Lolo Soetoro was listed as the paternal parent for Barry Soetoro for a live birth on August 4, 1961, Honolulu, HI and filed on August 8, 1961.....
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A different Ann Obama living at the same address as the Dunhams?
Actually,
Sec. 349. [8 U.S.C. 1481]
(a) A person who is a national of the United States whether by birth or naturalization, shall lose his nationality by voluntarily performing any of the following acts with the intention of relinquishing United States nationality-
(1) obtaining naturalization in a foreign state upon his own application or upon an application filed by a duly authorized agent, after having attained the age of eighteen years;
Barry Soetoro, Indonesian National born in Honolulu, naturalized as a Indonesian. When his mother amended her US Passport she told the US State Department she intended on staying in Indonesia indefinitely. That’s enough information for the SoS to issue a Certificate of Loss of Nationality.
The State Department provides for a minor issued a Certificate of Loss of Nationality an opportunity to recapture their U.S. Citizenship until 6 months after their 18th birthday.
Obama naturalized as a U.S. Citizen in 1983.
Was ANN S OBAMA, the student, shown in the Polk directory at the same address as the Dunham listing, (the same address as the birth announcement,) the very same girl who shows up as ANNA OBAMA in the Seattle Polk for 1961-1962, for whom Mary says she baby-sat, when her own daughter, who was born in July 1959, was 18 months old?
The Dunhams apparently shared the house with the Pratt family, who owned the furniture store where Stanley Armour was supposedly employed.
At a recent interview, their daughter stated she does not not remember the Dunhams having a daughter with a child.
So who was ANN S OBAMA? Who was ANNA OBAMA?
Ann S Obama is shown as a resident at that same address as Stanley Armour and Madelyn Dunham.
Stanley Ann Dunham supposedly graduated from Mercer Island High School in the summer of 1960.
She also supposedly enrolled at the U of HI for Fall, 1960.
We are told she married the kenyan student sometime in early 1961.
So, shouldn't her name appear as STANLEY ANN DUNHAM in the Honolulu directory at the same time as her parents?
It's like talking to a ventriloquist and his dummy...
Isn’t it more likely that the “Obama” they remember, who was at Hawaii Junior School was in fact the son of the real Ann or Annie Obama. The one who was listed in Polk as living with the Dunhams but under the Obama surname? The Negroid “heavy” one?
Is the Hawaii Polk Ann Obama the same person as the Ann Obama who was spotted (did she live there, or was she passing through?) in Seattle, or were there two, one parent of the Negroid and the other parent of the Asiatic “Obama”?
Why should we believe any of the passport records when the head of Obamas security and now the head of the CIA broke into the State Department to change the records?
“So, shouldn’t her name appear as STANLEY ANN DUNHAM in the Honolulu directory at the same time as her parents?”
According to the WND article the Honolulu Polk Directory was from 1961-1962.
I don’t know how the Polk Directory works, how or when they collected information or when they published or even what the years represent. Is it a two year directory?
I think that's best answered by the images which show zero sitting with the dark boy and then that same dark child is seen in Kenya with Ruth and his father, with Ruth holding baby Mark born in 1965.
Is the Hawaii Polk Ann Obama the same person as the Ann Obama who was spotted (did she live there, or was she passing through?) in Seattle, or were there two, one parent of the Negroid and the other parent of the Asiatic Obama?
The Hawaii Polk shows ANN S OBAMA. The Seattle Polk shows ANNA OBAMA. If Stanley Ann Dunham was neither, (and she couldn't have been ANNA because Mary baby-sat for her in January 1961 - which meant Anna was pregnant before Stanley Ann Dunham left High School) then no one knows who the parents of zero are. I see nothing asiatic about zero. Both directories were for the period 1961 - 1962.
Why should we believe any of the passport records when the head of Obamas security and now the head of the CIA broke into the State Department to change the records?
Do we know who broke into the records? But as I said, our research followed the people and not the doubtful documents.
There are images that show zero as quite plump and dark complexioned. It's still the same boy how-ever.
I think you need to read this, Ladysforest has done all the hard work.
http://www.imagesaving.com/images/baracknun.jpg
This pick with a Golden Gate has a different head stuck on it.
http://www.imagesaving.com/images/markdaojo.jpg
This pic, the child with the lighter face has his head on a dark arm and legged body.
My view is that all the young pics of “Obama” have been messed with. Heads have been stuck on different bodies. Skin colour has been altered.
The reason “Obama” would be in Hawaii would be because his Mum and/or Dad were there. No-one has established to my satisfaction that “Obama” was born in Hawaii, or had a Mum and Dad there, or had any family connection with Hawaii. In fact all the indications are quite the opposite.
There may have been a young black Obama child in Hawaii schools, but I think he left before High School. I think “Barack Obama II” materialised in about 1978 direct from Stuyvesant High School in New York where he has been listed as Bari M Shabazz/Obama.
I bet the people who say they knew “Obama” in Hawaii in his late teens only new him as Bari. I believe he was still using the Shabazz name and the New York driving license in Hawaii in 1982 when had a serious car crash. That Bari Shabazz had a different birth name that came from a Kingston Jamaica birth certificate.
Huh. I just glanced over that post of mine - and noticed this:
” They appear in the 1960-1961 Polk at the Kamehameha Ave address. I had that visually confirmed by my friend at the State Library in Honolulu.”
HOWEVER, when I next sent someone to get images of the POLK dir. housed in that library, there was nothing with a Kamahameha address for the Dunhams.
I do not know if my friend who first went screwed up on that point, because he didn’t get copies. I need to update that post I think. Here is the link with just the Polk stuff, lots of images - just click to enlarge.
http://myveryownpointofview.wordpress.com/2011/02/05/pssst-hey-buddy-wanna-see-my-polk
The ‘Bari Shabazz’ story had been well and truly debunked. You were shown who he was a year ago:
To: ABrit
He wasnt the son of Malcolm X, he was a guy from Kingston, Jamaica, who immigrated to New York. He converted to the NOI, and like thousands of other converts, took the surname Shabazz probably because he idolized Malcolm X. Orly Taitz has his Social Security records and INS documents.
Barking up the wrong tree.
2 posted on Monday, 21 January 2013 5:10:31 AM by Boogieman
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Bari-Shabazz-Kingston-Jamaica.pdf
As for the photographs, they are what they are.
Thanks very much for posting that link to your marathon work, anyone who wants to know more would do well to study it. Lots of freepers have no idea how much effort and time you devoted to this.
http://myveryownpointofview.wordpress.com/2011/02/05/pssst-hey-buddy-wanna-see-my-polk
You asked questions about the Polk directories? Maybe what you are looking for has been covered by the above.
“Barking up the wrong tree.”
Well Fred, with respect, after 5 years still no definitive statement on who Obambi’s Mum and Dad were, or where he was born, I prefer to bark up the Jamaica Shabazz tree. Still not sure about the real Mum though.
Talking of mum’s, ever noticed how the pics of SAD show her balooning in the same way as Madelyn Dunham. Maybe they just got old Maddy pics and photoshopped them for SAD’s images?
Stanley Ann Dunham, zero and Madelyn Dunham photographed outside the University of Hawaii.
So where did SAD and zero live?
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