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The left is mobilizing to use the tragic crime in Connecticut to disarm Americans. It will have no effect on school shootings. The effective solution would be to encourage armed responsible adults to be able to protect children. We need to promote an alternative, effective solution that builds on America's strengths of self reliance, responsibility, and liberty.
1 posted on 12/15/2012 1:56:10 AM PST by marktwain
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What’s the point? There is no way our president will ever consider it. He wants the law abiding citizens unarmed.


2 posted on 12/15/2012 2:35:32 AM PST by she geek
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Make it so!

Anyone who has ever filled out a form 4473 should sign it, if for no other reason than to save their dog's life in the future.

3 posted on 12/15/2012 2:36:29 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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They need to think again about lock downs and/or school construction.

Think about 9-11. If they had doors that prevented the terrorists from entering the pilots pit, things might have been different. (Look up which lobbyist kept this from happening prior to 9-11).

Maybe we need steel doors halfway down long school corridors that can be closed from a "watch location".

Maybe we need hallway cameras??

Maybe we need to think about dispersing the kids OUT of the buildings instead of making them sitting ducks.

But most of all....we need a place that people can call to report erratic behavior of an individual. I know....They can't do anything BEFORE something happens...or if it's domestic...

5 posted on 12/15/2012 2:44:11 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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...”The left is mobilizing to use the tragic crime in Connecticut to disarm Americans. It will have no effect on school shootings. The effective solution would be to encourage armed responsible adults to be able to protect children. We need to promote an alternative, effective solution that builds on America’s strengths of self reliance, responsibility, and liberty”...

I would bet we have many adults out here who have concealed carry permits who would be willing to take a security guard job at their local school.


7 posted on 12/15/2012 3:01:19 AM PST by jazzlite (esat)
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Make it voluntary give the school staff incentives to train and carry arms.

We would have responsible people in every school that would be willing to defend their school.

Instead of letting their students and other staff get slaughtered.

9 posted on 12/15/2012 3:11:07 AM PST by riverrunner
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If we really want to protect the children, we need to make sure we keep the statists and their rules, regulations, policies and laws as far away from the children as possible at all times.

The problems we have in America are primarily from the agenda successes of the statists and those who have believed in and embraced their agenda.


10 posted on 12/15/2012 3:15:40 AM PST by Perseverando (Gun control? It's really not about gun control. It's about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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CT has some of the strictest gun laws in the country. This incident should show that such laws are failures, but instead, the Left uses this crisis to push an agenda of more gun laws that will fail.

Every school ought to have armed guards. Do we value our banks more than our children’s schools?


11 posted on 12/15/2012 3:16:42 AM PST by txrefugee
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Yes....it will be much more beneficial to have trained, armed personnel in our schools...ready for such threats. This is much better than the Gun Grabbing Hysteria from the Gun Control Fascists.

As FReeper psycho_bunny so succinctly pointed out yesterday: “This is the gun-contollers ‘Reichstag Fire’”


12 posted on 12/15/2012 3:20:40 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Seems that the ones who understand little about the economy are economists)
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>>Creating more disarmed victims will not stop future crimes.>>

That says it all.


13 posted on 12/15/2012 3:35:26 AM PST by kitkat
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I posted this in another thread; it needs to be here too:

A proven, practical approach to school security.

15 posted on 12/15/2012 3:41:17 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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SCHOOL LOCKDOWNS ONLY INCREASE THE BODY COUNT!!!!

School lockdowns make sense if a threat exists outside the building and you have the means to actually “secure” entry. Any first-floor glass doors and windows equal failure.

However, once the threat is inside the building, a lockdown merely creates a barrel of fish waiting to be shot.

Lockdowns create high body-counts.


16 posted on 12/15/2012 4:10:29 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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Any place that posts a “no guns” sign, albeit a bank, school, store) is giving an open invitation for a criminal to enter and commit a crime. Our kids are sitting ducks in schools. We need someone on the campus who is armed. An armed society is a polite society.


19 posted on 12/15/2012 4:28:21 AM PST by growingpains
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From 'reegs' thread last night- should be consistently posted:


20 posted on 12/15/2012 4:42:14 AM PST by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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Beslan is a prime example of the nonsense knee jerk reaction of liberals with munchausen political syndrome by proxy.


22 posted on 12/15/2012 4:48:37 AM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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25 posted on 12/15/2012 5:04:00 AM PST by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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As a conservative educator serving (time) in the public school system, I cringe when I think of some of the teachers I work with trying to defend their students in a violent situation like the one yesterday. They are more likely to try to reason with a shooter, than to recognize the situation for what it is. Heck, half of them will be inclined to join the anti-gun crowd in protests around the country this weekend.

“Mr. Twain,” you’ll appreciate this one...

Yesterday, I was discussing with one class the “active shooter” procedures for our school...we basically lock the door, turn out the lights and pretend we’re not there until help arrives. After my students’ laughter died down, I became stone-faced and explained to them that THAT WAS the procedure. Nothing else.

I went on to explain what I have programmed myself to do...(keep in mind, that, currently, this is all that is available for me to do)...I will be the first person behind the locked door. Whoever barges in will receive whatever blows I may rain down on his/her head with my trusty 3-hole punch. My students continue to laugh, thinking very little of my “strategy,” just as most readers of this post are laughing, I assume. I again look at them stone-faced and ask them, “what are you prepared to do, should I fall? Do you think some shooter is going to stop shooting having taken me out? Who will grab the 3-hole punch if/when I fall?” At this point, there is no more laughter.

What would happen if this counter-argument to the lunatic-left disarm America meme were to be presented? What would the average American parent think, should they consider the scenario that I just explained...the ridiculous prospects for survival, the notion that their child might have to defend themselves bare-handed against an armed intruder?


26 posted on 12/15/2012 5:04:25 AM PST by MarDav
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Absolutely, totally correct. Responsible CHL carry by administrators and teachers in school will become a necessity.


29 posted on 12/15/2012 5:24:29 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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Needless to say guns aren’t the problem, insanity is....

In China earlier this week a crazed man stabbed and injured over 20 children with a knife when he entered a school.

In my own town 22 years ago five people were murdered in one home with a ballpean hammer.

You can’t ban insanity so it makes a heck of a lot of sense for all the sane people to be armed against the crazy ones.


30 posted on 12/15/2012 5:26:29 AM PST by Nextrush (PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN IS MY DREAM)
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I’m for it - insist a percentage of teachers/staff get trained and be armed and even give them a pay incentive.


31 posted on 12/15/2012 5:27:14 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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many employees already are permitted and armed. the only thing you need to do is allow them to cary concealed...and post it.


33 posted on 12/15/2012 6:11:41 AM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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