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1 posted on 10/27/2012 6:06:13 AM PDT by Reaganite Republican
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To: Reaganite Republican

Typical top brass military politician; he threw his lot in with this contemptible POS POTUS, and now runs for the hills to save his own skin. If he had real brass balls, he should’ve figured out a way to go around that pu$$y and have military intervention take place to save those real Americans in Bengazi, even if it cost him his job. Oh well, too much to lose, I guess, however in the the end hopefully truth wins out.


2 posted on 10/27/2012 6:10:08 AM PDT by john drake
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3 posted on 10/27/2012 6:12:34 AM PDT by Reaganite Republican
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To: Reaganite Republican

Obviously the current occupant of the oval office is the one who made the decision. No one in this administration can do anything on their own. The Anointed One is in charge and gives all the orders.

He has not yet been impeached, which proves that half the American public has its head up its a$$, the mainstream media have deliberately chosen to protect him, and the Republican party is a bunch of wimps.


4 posted on 10/27/2012 6:14:56 AM PDT by I want the USA back (The media is completely irresponsible.)
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To: Reaganite Republican
Eisenhower Never Took Credit . . .

Follow the graphics to the part about Eisenhower never taking credit for D-Day. The truth of that was that Eisenhower prepared to take responsibility if it had been the disaster it could have been.

Eisenhower prepared a headline to release if the good guys lost on Normandy. It said: Our Forces have been withdrawn from Normandy.

Eisenhower scratched that and replaced it wirh: I have withdrawn our forces from Normandy.

An interesting difference with our Child-in-Chief...Obama doesn't know what it's like to take responsibility when there is need for heavy lifting. He never actually experienced it, responsibility, that is...or heavy lifting.

8 posted on 10/27/2012 6:23:52 AM PDT by stevem
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To: Reaganite Republican
There were reports that one of those under attack was able to laser point to the attackers and call for air strikes. One of two drones in the area was armed.

When the HQ received the laser data, someone had to say Yea or Nay.

Whose drones were these? If they were CIA's, then someone in the CIA chain of command made the decision not to fire.

Petraeus: "No one at any level in the CIA told anybody not to help those in need; claims to the contrary are simply inaccurate."

That sounds more like wigglewords and CYA (Cover Your A$$), rather than CIA decision to take action.

Patraeus is effectively saying that there were ZERO calls for help from Wood or Doherty or any one else. [That doesn't ring true.]
10 posted on 10/27/2012 6:26:17 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Reaganite Republican

Petraeus on Benghazi: It Wasn’t Me

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/10/26/Petraeus-on-Benghazi-It-Wasnt-Me


11 posted on 10/27/2012 6:27:43 AM PDT by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: Reaganite Republican
Long ago I was a SEAL officer and I attended many joint and combined operational planning meetings in the USA, abroad, and on ships at sea. This type of rescue mission is called a "NEO" operation, for Non-combatant Evacuation Operation. Every embassy and consulate has and practices all kinds of emergency evac plans, in concert with the US military.

For example, Marines and SEALs practice NEO ops prior to deploying on every float, as a VERY high priority mission. They involve full dress-rehearsals, with civilian role players, helos, landing craft, rounding up stranded stragglers, opfor ambushes, role-playing "angry mobs," fighting your way to LZs or even beaches while protecting a gaggle of civilians down to babies etc. Conducting successful NEO ops is a TOP TOP TOP military and state department mission priority. I cannot emphasize this enough. NEO ops are planned and practiced over and over and over.

When the alarm goes off worldwide that an embassy or consulate is being attacked, the entire U.S. military swings into rescue mode, without waiting for any orders from the White House. The military does all of the operational planning and begins to execute the rescue op.

The one thing they CAN'T do is cross an international border without permission from POTUS. So the US Military will be inbound full-steam-ahead to make the rescue, and all they need from POTUS is a "proceed" order. In this case, they got a "stand down" instead.

This is at the POTUS level, it is not a decision taken at State. State and the military (JCS) should be in the Situation Room with POTUS soon after a critical incident like this begins, so all decisions can be made in real time. (I have heard nowhere that POTUS went into the Situation Room at all. Apparently he went to the Oval Office briefly, but not down to the Situation Room, where the "war planning" screens, full staffs and commo tools are all located for dealing with a major crisis.)

But if POTUS punts after a brief Oval Office meeting with Dempsey and Hillary and goes upstairs to the family quarters....the stranded Americans will die.

Only POTUS can give the order to cross international borders. Only POTUS can allow US warplanes to give air support to Americans battling on the ground in a foreign country. If POTUS makes himself unavailable, the Americans will die.

Even the VEEP or Secretary of State cannot make that call. The VEEP can only do it if the POTUS is determined to be medically unable to perform his functions. If the POTUS goes upstairs and turns off his phone, there is nothing anybody can do about it. Nothing. And the besieged Americans will die.

On Friday an anonymous Pentagon insider ("Doug") called into Rush with a lot of new details about this disgraceful fiasco. But what we really need now is for a high-ranking officer with insider knowledge to go public, risk his pension and career, and tell the truth.

The blame for this humiliating and shameful national disgrace is pointing directly at the POTUS, and America needs to know why the inbound rescue operation was aborted.

12 posted on 10/27/2012 6:36:04 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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So Patraeus spoke, big deal...he is obfuscating the obvious and trying to save his own hide. He could have said clearly that the CIA didn't have the authority to go in and that the authority is the purview of the POTUS, but he didn't. He is trying to walk a rope that I hope breaks. Don't we have any people capable of speaking the truth in this whole disgusting Administration?
19 posted on 10/27/2012 7:18:57 AM PDT by pepperdog ( I still get a thrill up my leg when spell check doesn't recognize the name/word Obama!)
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To: Reaganite Republican

He parroted Obamas line about the video protests getting out of hand. He ONLY spoke up when the story fell flat and it was revaealed that CIA was told to stand dowm.

He knows the truth, but only gives little hints now. He could tell the whole rotten story, but he still protects Obama. He’s corrupt or a coward.

Our government lies to us as often and enthusiastically as any totalitarian enemy we scream about. Guys like Petraeus are right in the thick of it. And leaving grunts behind a machine gun with no fire support is nothing new to Petraeus, he used the same rules in Afghanistan. Men have died there many times, screaming for arty or air only to have it denied because the enemy was in a building.

This is the most evil thing you can do, is refuse fire support to someone in a firefight.

Where’s that old Norman Rockwell poster. The man manning a machine gun. “Lets give him enough,,,and on time”.


23 posted on 10/27/2012 7:47:39 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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When and why—...—did President Obama decide against sending in military assets to help the Americans in need?

The more the lies and denials continue, the more I lean in favor of the "conspiracy theory" that BHO setup the ambassador to be taken hostage so BHO could "justify" the release of that terrorist back to Egypt without all the blow-back.

25 posted on 10/27/2012 8:00:45 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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BUMP-TO-THE-TRUTH!

TREASON - aid, comfort and weapons to enemies and pre-meditated lies in the form of direct attacks on amendment 1.

TREASON like this republic has never seen before.

TREASON...in real time...right now...continuous...ongoing.


27 posted on 10/27/2012 8:05:09 AM PDT by PGalt
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So who in the government did tell ;anybody' not to help those in need?

Well, until the inventory of what got taken by these homicidal robbers is released we cannot be sure who had the most to gain/lose by intervening or not.

32 posted on 10/27/2012 8:25:07 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Please help Todd Akin defeat Claire and the GOP-e send money!!!!!)
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But you did lie congress and tell them it was all about a video that had only 1,000 views at the time of the attack.


34 posted on 10/27/2012 8:28:39 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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