JAF0V...
Posted on 10/13/2012 5:50:55 PM PDT by American Dream 246
True story at a Ford dealership
Tom Selkis' (Latham Ford) True story recently at the dealership.....
"I'll try to make this as short and to the point as I can. One of my salesmen here had a woman in his office yesterday wanting to lease a brand new Focus.
As he was reviewing her credit app with her he noticed she was on social security disability. He said to her you don't look like you're disabled. She said "well I'm really not, I could work if I wanted to but I make more now then I did when I was working and got hurt" (non-disabling injury).
She said the gov't sends her $1500.00 a month in 1 check; she gets $700.00 a month on an EBTcard (food stamps), and $800.00 a month for rent. Oh yeah and 250 mins free on her phone. That is just south of $3500.00 a month.When she was working she was taking home about $330.00 per week. Do the math and then ask yourself: "why the hell should she go back to work?"
If you multiply that by millions of people you start to realize the scope of the problem we face as a country.
Once the socialists have 51% of the population in that same scenario we are finished........ *and we are real, real close*. The question is: when do we cross that threshold if we haven't already?
She didn't lease the Focus here because the dealer down the road beat our deal by $10.00 month. *Glad to know she is so frugal with her hard earned money!*
Don’t forget to add in to that equation all the other things we pick up the tab for.
Like her health care.
Not true anymore, accordng to my neighbor who makes his living as an "expert witness" in SS hearings. It is a rare judge who calls in a witness to take the side of the SS Admin. We were talking about this last week. He's a Psychologist with a jillion additional degrees and teaches at the Medical College here, but the bulk of his income comes from his SS testimony. Even when my friend tesifies, the case generally is settled by arbitration. In cases like that, the plaintiff generally gets a positive settlement.
My husband had this happen early spring...woman in a nice long leather coat ringing up lobster and steak in the self-checkout line. My husband was next in line behind her...woman left her receipt behind, and on it was the balance remaining on the her bridge card. My husband rang up his couple of items and went out to parking lot where the woman was getting into an Escalade! My DH and I live frugally by choice...we work hard, forgoing ‘luxuries’ so we could pay off our cars and house. We only got our first cell phones—and they are cheapo Trac phones—last fall for emergencies. We live debt-free so other folks could engage in this behavior?!?
Ask the Obama phone lady..
Disability. Fake some sort of mental disorder. Hard to prove you don’t have it. Or live at McDonalds. Being fat will work. (gets you a parking permit for your new Focus as well)
Food stamps? Apply, quit your job first.
Other goodies? Once you get one goodie flowing, the others are easy. If you qualify for one, you pretty much qualify for all of them.
Just look at how many different government programs she qualifies for! She is a virtual goldmine, for government assistance program employees.
Without her, they would all lose their jobs!
I bet she listens very carefully to their coaching questions and answers correctly often enough to score an “A” on the entitlements tests and re-qualifications
She is probably Caucasion ,Hispanic/Latino or Asian. Black women, for whatever reasons, tend to miss absolute bureaucratic deadlines for re-qualifications, and struggle harder to milk the entitlement system to the fullest degree possible.
If one is actually physically and/or mentally disabled, it's extremely hard to “qualify” for all the “benefits” for which you are supposedly entitled.
The government bureaucrats don't WANT to deal with your type, because you probably won't understand how the system is supposed to work to their benefit first, and then trickle down to benefit you, pretty much as an afterthought.
Story is B.S.
Two points:
For many individuals validly disabled there is nothing about their outward appearance that would tell you that. A disability condition doesn’t necessarily have to entail loss of limbs or such. In fact, sometimes the people who look disabled really aren’t. A person might have one good day in 30 and chooses to go out that day; people say “Oh look, that person gets about just fine”.
Most people on federal SNAP just had benefits reduced by about 40%. Family of four can be down to about $250/month with a few thousand dollars of income.
These are the people satisfied with little.
She is getting less than 40 G per yr which is not enough to raise a family in a big city without major stress and hardship.
Will enough people be satisfied with a little? Americans never have.
The other scam I have seen is someone hanging out by a grocery store entrance; I’ve had offers upon the person seeing my shopping list to buy my food and then I pay with cash when they come out.
It looks like food purchases on the EBT, and the person is money laundering. I always refuse, but I wonder how many take up the offer.
I don’t think anyone works harder for their money than card salesmen. That is one tough job. It must gall them to have crap like this walk in reeking of tax funded freebees.
Link please. The month before the election? I'm only buying it with evidence.
I have to disagree with you there. Having been trained in neuropsychology and psychometrics (although with only brief work experience in the field), I would have no trouble demonstrating a preponderance of the evidence that an individual was malingering. Quite often comes down to subtly inconsistent responses on a testing instrument.
There were numerous stories at the start of the congressional budget cycle. If I run across one I’ll let you know.
That was exactly the same sequence my wife went through to get SSDI in 2006, except that the ALJ actually rendered a favorable decision without a hearing, based on the documentation that was submitted.
Some quick research on the web turned up this fact:
Most SSDI recipients receive between $300 and $2,200. The average SSDI payment in 2012 is $1,111.
Source: http://www.disabilitysecrets.com/how-much-in-ssd.html
Friggin PO’s me.
Home from my fifth back surgery (20 hours ago) and I’ve been doing work since 10 hours after. I’ve had two shoulder surgeries. Not even 50 yet.
Disability? Yeah, I think I could qualify. But I WANT to work. I WANT to keep learning and improving.
I do not understand the desire to milk the system. EBT card carriers overload on tatoos and manicures.
Argh.
JAF0V...
You are a tough guy. Soon as the anesthetic wore off I’d be begging for more.
Don't judge all on disability by her. I'm on disability and have been since 1994 back when it was nearly impossible to get on it. My wife has been on it since 1985. My wife is a quadriplegic. Her disability doesn't need to be explained the word quadriplegic says it all.
I went on it nine years afterward due to some serious but non life threatening issues in my Central Nervous System involving sensory processing. A life long issue that finally became disabling when it reached seizure level. I walk with a cane now for balance issues and nobody questions my disability because I use the cane. Two years ago I didn't need it. Falls though made it a reality.
Our total combined income on disability is right at $1500mo. No extra help like SSI. No Food Stamps either. Some of our meds are paid for by Part D many more like one for Asthma for her is $100mo just for the co-pay for one medication. We have a 98 Dodge High Top conversion Van. A necessity because of a 300 plus pound wheel chair {empty} and a 300 pound hydraulic lift the van must carry.
She gets no home health care assistance. I am the caregiver {unlicensed nurse} just as I was when I was working and leaving her home by herself. That was sometimes 16 hours straight if my relief worker failed to show. If an emergency came up for her a faimily member could respond within a couple minutes though.
Not everyone on disability is in a wheelchair. Nor all all or for that matter most gaming the system. My sister five years older is on disability after she became widowed a few years ago. She's had several major strokes and now Dementia onset. She qualified for disability because she was over 54 and disabled and widowed. It's a small age window 54-62 put in the rules to cover stay at home mothers who had not ever worked but were disabled and suddenly widowed.
Income wasn't an issue when her husband was alive so they never applied for help. When B.I.L. was out of work due to lay offs a couple of times he couldn't get help for her though.
Not certain when the rules got changed, but I do know that the private long-term disability insurance force their claimants onto SSDI as soon as they can.
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