Posted on 10/12/2012 7:49:04 AM PDT by expat1000
This is ridiculous and it should be an incredibly damning statement. Its shocking to me that this has not been picked up.
VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN: Let let let me you dont go through the U.N. We are in the process now and have been for months in making sure that help, humanitarian aid, as well as other aid and training, is getting to those forces that we believe, the Turks believe, the Jordanians believe, the Saudis believe are the free forces inside of Syria.
What Biden said in his debate with Ryan is that Saudi Arabia and Turkey, both Islamist countries, and Jordan which is a pawn, determine which Syrian rebels get other aid, presumably weapons, and the training to use them.
That Obama is arming and training, directly or indirectly, the Syrian rebels, would be an important revelation in and of itself. Bidens dismissal of the UN, after years of Democratic whining about Bushs unilateralism, should also excite comment, but most significantly Biden admits that our view of who should get them derives from the view of Turkeys Islamist government and Saudi Arabias even more Islamist regime. Saudi Arabia is as bad as Pakistan and Turkey is being run by an Islamist party that is backing the Muslim Brotherhood to take over Syria. Both consider Hamas a legitimate group, and yet Obama has decided to make his plan for regime change in Syria subservient to what the Saudi and Turkish lobbies tell him to do.
This is near confirmation that Obama is arming and training the Muslim Brotherhood to take over Syria.
In probably the worst choice of words imaginable, Biden talks of, working hand in glove with the Turks, with the Jordanians, with the Saudis and with all the people in the region attempting to identify the people who deserve the help so that when Assad goes and he will go, there will be a legitimate government that follows on, not an al-Qaida-sponsored government that follows on.
This isnt just backing rebel fighters, this is fairly open regime change. Al Qaeda can do quite a bit of damage, but they cant take over Syria. Even a buffoon like Biden knows that. Syria isnt Mali or Afghanistan. But the Muslim Brotherhood can take over Syria. And when the Muslim Brotherhood takes over a country, like the Taliban they provide a safe haven for Islamic terrorist groups.
Biden said a lot of stupid things during the debate, but this may be the worst of them all. And the worst part is that its all true.
From an article by the Daily Caller:
“A survey of weapon depots in Libya shows that up to 20,000 shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missiles are now missing, partly because President Barack Obama has refused to send troops to guard the weapons depots, according to a left-of-center advocate.”
I think thos are EXACTLY the ones!! I find it almost unimaginable that the media has not bothered to investigate this (unless the were explicitly told not to). Last Thursday the head of security for the embassy was assasinated. Why would the administration not secure one of the only witnesses to this event? Why was this person not held somewhere safe? I get a very bad taste in my mouth when I pose these questions. Here is the story (buried by the media, of course)
you’ll find this clip interesting...
http://www.1041thetruth.com/podcast/harris/173616781.html#.UHYqP3EaUIs.facebook
It’s important that every FReeper get on this thread to contribute to or to get informed on how the Libyan coverup is more wide reading than meets the eye.
thanx martsegreg for the content and thoughts you provided!
Thanks for the clip. I find it infuriating how this information is being filtered for us.
do u think that Obamas whisper to Russia’s PM (”I’ll have more flexibility after the election”) is in any way related to what happened in Lybia? And if so, what is the relationship?
Trey Goudy ..a congressman from SC ..is the only person, IMHO, saying all the right things that need to be said..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSvDkwsFsk8
True. But the position of Romney and Ryan is essentially the same as that of the Obama Regime.
I tend to believe these events are part of the same tapestry. Originally, I think the whole Putin thing was probably in regards to drawing down our nuclear capabilities and our defenses in general. It may have had something to do with Iran. Russia has been in bed with the Iranian government for quite a while now. I think those two things are the most likely but we may never know.
TED GOWDY IS AWESOME!!!!!!! Thank you for sending me the link. He is truly representing the people with what he said ( all to rare these days). Did he come in with the Tea Party folks in 2010?
Today there was the news item that some transport loaded with Russian weapons was headed for Libya I believe. So I was wondering, of maybe we are arming them as well.
And thanks for your ideas. I will keep all these things in mind. Putting the dots together requires a LOT of research to keep up with all these recent developments.
I don’t have any evidence to provide but I believe damn well that the weapons used to kill American citizens in Libya were supplied by the United States. Nobody gave a second thought to WHO they were arming because they wanted Kadaffi out so bad. Obama made sure his brotherhood buddies got the goods to take care of that country, and unwittingly, 4 Americans as well.
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- Hussein Junior
The “Lone Funman” is still there -
.....and his finger is twitching
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It’s hard to say. Shipments that are contraban are generally not from point A to point B. I would imagine that the more “middle men” there are, the harder it would be to find the sender (unless this administration is so inept that they don’t feel they have to hide it). Since there are a LOT of Russian weapons making their rounds in the middle east, I’m quite sure that even though Russia cannot deny making them, they can cetainly deny sending them. You make a good point though, the situation in the middle east is percolating these days. It does seem likely that things will boil over.
I think you are spot on. If the administration sent people to “clean up” after the attack, what did they clean up? What exactly did they secure that did not include the anything in the embassy??? Diaries, documents, file cabinets all full of sensitive information all left behind?
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