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To: Kansas58

You know exactly nothing!

Three types of citizenship are recognized by our government: native born; naturalized; and citizen-by-statute (derived citizenship from parents). All have equal rights. All can serve in Congress, either as a Representative in the House, or as a Senator in the Senate.
The following link will take you to the government’s own Immigration Service web page describing the three types of citizenship.
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=a2ec6811264a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=a2ec6811264a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD

Natural born Citizen is NOT a type of statutory citizenship.

Natural born is ONLY an eligibility requirement for the U.S. Presidency per Article II, Section 1, clause 5, of the U.S. Constitution, and requires the President to be born in the United States (jus solis) AND of two citizen parents (jus sanguinas).

The definition of natural born Citizen appears in the holding of SCOTUS’s unanimous decision on Minor v. Happersett (1874).

Virginia Minor sued to be included as a candidate for U.S. President based on her eligibility under the 14th Amendment to the U.S.Constitution. SCOTUS rejected her argument and examined her eligibility, concluding that she belonged to the class of citizens who, being born in the U.S. of citizen parents, was a natural born Citizen, and not covered by the 14th Amendment. This holding has been used in 25 consequent SCOTUS decisions since 1875.

No one has the RIGHT to be President. The eligibility requirement of Natural Born Citizenship (jus solis + jus sanguinas: born in the U.S. of U.S. citizen parents) must be viewed as a means to prevent split allegiance for any President of the United States.

This is called Rule of Law.


83 posted on 09/14/2012 9:03:48 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: SatinDoll
You would be laughed out of any court room

You would be laughed out of any immigration hearing

You would be laughed out of any legal school

You are a Know-nothing crackpot and you are wrong.

There are but TWO forms of Citizenship:

Natural Born

Naturalized

No other form is recognized by US Law.

84 posted on 09/14/2012 9:08:41 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: SatinDoll; Kansas58
A lot of heat over this, as there should be. Having followed the arguments over some time, I can only hope that each state will solicit, as is their duty, all pertinent proofs with respect to eligibility for the Office. At the same time, the number of opinions floating about as to what currently constitutes the same is disconcerting. This ought to be spelled out simply and incontrovertibly for future generations.

Born of US parents on US soil is all I would ask. We do not have such a President today.

85 posted on 09/14/2012 9:16:55 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (oboy)
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