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To: SatinDoll
You would be laughed out of any court room

You would be laughed out of any immigration hearing

You would be laughed out of any legal school

You are a Know-nothing crackpot and you are wrong.

There are but TWO forms of Citizenship:

Natural Born

Naturalized

No other form is recognized by US Law.

84 posted on 09/14/2012 9:08:41 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58; SatinDoll
You would be laughed out of any court room

We already covered that. The US courts are either liars mostly by omission and by misconstruction. It is no wonder why.

Your error is that the 14th Amendment naturalizes or in other words, it makes citizens by statute at birth.

86 posted on 09/14/2012 9:20:56 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Kansas58

“There are but TWO forms of Citizenship:...”

Nope. Per the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services online site:

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=a2ec6811264a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=a2ec6811264a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD

CITIZENSHIP

If you meet certain requirements, you may become a U.S. citizen either at birth or after birth.

To become a citizen at birth, you must:

(1a) Have been born in the United States (native born citizen) or certain territories or outlying possessions of the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States; OR

(1b) had a parent or parents who were citizens at the time of your birth (if you were born abroad) and meet other requirements (derived citizen)

To become a citizen after birth, you must:

(2) Apply for “derived” or “acquired” citizenship through parents

(3) Apply for naturalization

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Obama has NEVER claimed to be a natural born Citizen, only a native born citizen.

Native born citizen - Gov. Bobby Jindal was born in Louisiana just four months after his parents began college here in the U.S.A.

Derived citizen - Sen. John McCain: whether born in the nation of Panama, or born in the Panama Canal Zone, he isn’t a natural born Citizen as neither place is considered part of the U.S.A. If born in the nation of Panama, his citizenship derives from his parents U.S. citizenship. If he was born in the Panama Canal Zone, because it is an unincorporated territory, his U.S. citizenship is statutory (granted by Congress), and he is not natural born.

Naturalized citizen - Gov. Arnold Schwarznegger, born in Austria, naturalized as a U.S. citizen.

All three men above are eligible to serve in Congress. The eligibility requirements for Congress, in Article I, sections 2 and 3, of the U.S. Constitution, clearly state that Representatives and Senators are only required to be citizens.

“Article II, section 1, clause 5 clearly states: “No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible who has not attained to the Age of Thirty-five years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”

Notice the requirement for President is different, not merely a ‘citizen’, as for Congress, but a natural born Citizen.

The U.S. Constitution is U.S. law, and SCOTUS defines that law, as they did with Minor v. Happersett (1874).

A natural born Citizen is born in the USA of citizen parents.


90 posted on 09/14/2012 9:50:37 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: Kansas58
There are but TWO forms of Citizenship:

Natural Born

Naturalized

No other form is recognized by US Law.

And again Mr. Idiot, what form of citizenship did Aldo Mario Bellei have?

You know nothing, and you repeat it very often and loudly.

134 posted on 09/15/2012 12:03:13 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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