Posted on 06/21/2012 7:50:23 AM PDT by chatter4
"Upon a close inspection of the photo Savannah Guthrie took of Obama's long form Birth Certificate, I've found that the document states that Obama was born in "Honolulu, Huwaii." This could be one reason why Obama and the State of Hawaii refused to allow the public to see this document. Obama's lawyers have argued this would be too much of an embarassment for him to produce this document in Court."
“The green version of the same certificate says “Hawaii” not Huwaii. It Does not have the same error. How, then, can they be photos of the same certificate? I think this may cause a little trouble for Barry.”
Yes, this should cause trouble for the Usurper. It is absolute proof that the versions handed out to the press(the AP version) and the Pdf long form, that is on the government servers, were tampered with and are forgeries.
Huwaii is Kenyan for Hawaii
I’d be willing to bet, that of all the BC’s produced by Hawaii, obama’s BC is the only one that says Huwaii.
This was not a typo.
The video image of the document is not clear enough to sustain the charge that it is a different letter. The fuzzy image looks like a "u", but it is not so far different from an "a" that it is conclusive.
I find this to be an unlikely point worth contesting as proof of something. It if *IS* true, then it's great for our side, but I doubt that it's true. I think it's merely an artifact of looking at a fuzzy picture.
“Just for the record, Obama’s lawyers never argued that revealing his original birth records would be an embarrassment to him.”
They most certainly did. That arguement it would be an embaressment, an undue burden and expense was used in the first elibility case that was brought in PA by Philip Berg in 2008. Obama’s attorney just argued it would be an undue burden and expense to have discovery in the case “Voeltz v. Obama, et. al.” which is in progress in Florida.
If you have a link to their specific quote, I would be exceedingly appreciative for the cite. Thank you in advance.
http://dockets.justia.com/docket/pennsylvania/paedce/2:2008cv04083/281573/
See: BERG v. OBAMA et al
Filing: 15
http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/pennsylvania/paedce/2:2008cv04083/281573/15/
Thank you for the links. I checked them both, but couldn’t find the quote. Would it be too much trouble for you to include the quote itself in your next post to me, followed by the cite/link? I would really like to get to the bottom of this. I have never been able to track down the specific quote, and it appears you know exactly where it is and what it says. Please cut and paste it, and then link the p. on which it appears, if you would be so kind. Thanks.
Rule 26(c)(1) authorizes the Court to enter a protective order to protect a party “from annoyance, embarrassment, oppression, or undue burden or expense,” including an order forbidding the discovery or specifying terms for discovery.
Thank you. I must have used the wrong form of ‘embarrassing’ in my search. I was looking for something along the lines of:
“Obama’s lawyers have argued this would be too much of an embarassment for him to produce this document in Court.”
The quote you cited looks more like a standard piece of legalese. Don’t get me wrong. I believe Obama should have granted access to his documents years ago, and that the fact that he didn’t reveals either the complete absence of original documents or the existence of ruinous info on the original ‘birth records’.
That said, I do not see the one-for-one equation of the quote as cited at the beginning of this article and the rule you so kindly and helpfully pulled from the filing. Perhaps if I were a lawyer, I would see that the two are indeed exact equivalents.
Savannah Guthrie’s BC states “Huwaii” How the heck did we miss that for this long? So we now have three different versions!
Yeah I'm not seeing the difference. Annoyance and embarrassment still mean basically the same thing. Producing a birth certificate shouldn't be an undue burden either. After all, Obama voted for a law in 2005 that puts such a burden on everyone who wants to apply for a drivers license or ID card. Submitting a birth certificate as positive evidence in such a situation is an obligation and should have been done voluntarily. It speaks volumes that Obama's lawyers would try to fight off something they should have wanted to do on their own.
They should have cut to the chase and cited the divine right kings. Better yet, they should have argued that the only possible reason to question BHO’s BC is racism. They had so many good options. Maybe if they’d known in advance the judges would buy anything and everything they argued, they would have filed that crayon BC Abercrombie waves around in the shopped pic that turns up periodically. The judges would have accepted it w a straight face, no questions asked.
“That said, I do not see the one-for-one equation of the quote as cited at the beginning of this article...”
There was no quote cited in the article except for the phrase, “Honolulu, Huwaii”. The article is only a part of the video description, thus the larger quotation marks.
The quote I was referring to is cited in my post #31.
“So we now have three different versions!”
Yes, In addition to the word “Huwaii”, his father’s middle name appears on this form with two different sized “S”’s and the serial numbers are at different heights. There are two other videos about this by the same poster on Youtube.
“”Huwaii”
Isn’t that just south of Hooey, or maybe Horse Hockey?”
Yeah, I think those are some of the states Obama often campaigns in.
Only one of the 57 states.
There may be some confusion there. In 2008 when Philip Berg, Esq. challenged Obama’s eligibility, two statements were issued. One was from Howard Dean, then head of the DNC. I don’t remember who the other was from. One of them said releasing Obama’s birth certificate was “problematic”; the other said it would be “embarassing”.
Article, then # 26 , # 39.
Thanks, GregNH.
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