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[Vanity] I'm considering OCS instead of Grad School.

Posted on 06/14/2012 12:41:36 PM PDT by John Will

It's been a while since I've posted but I'm just finishing up my First year of a PhD in Chemistry and so far I'm hating the academia, I've talked with a Recruiter and So far Army OCS looks good. I'm looking for some advice on what to do. I'm 27 so I'm reaching the end of eligibility so it's now or never for me. I already have B.S. and M.S. degrees in the subject.


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1 posted on 06/14/2012 12:41:39 PM PDT by John Will
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To: John Will

Navy might make better use of your skills.

I think Navy is a better career move, and I’m ex Air Force.


2 posted on 06/14/2012 12:44:02 PM PDT by G Larry (Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding)
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To: John Will

Watch some fighter jock videos and go for pilot.


3 posted on 06/14/2012 12:44:17 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: John Will

I would lean toward finishing your PhD, but it depends on what you wan to do with your life. Remember, you are frustrated now with academia but the Army always looks better when you are a prospect than when you are a customer.


4 posted on 06/14/2012 12:45:56 PM PDT by expat2
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To: John Will

Depends on what you want to do as far as service branch goes. Do you want to kill people and break things? Army or Marines is your best bet (I’m kind of partial to the Army myself—Infantry, Rangers, Special Forces, etc). Do you want to make use of your technical knowledge? Probably better off looking at the Navy or Air Force.

I went through the Infantry Officer Basic Course with a lot of OCS guys. They were glad to be done with it, especially after Basic Training, but once you’re commissioned, it gets a lot better.


5 posted on 06/14/2012 12:47:14 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: John Will
get in better shape, even though you think you are, get in better shape....*grins*... have fun, go for it
6 posted on 06/14/2012 12:48:26 PM PDT by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: G Larry
I agree, as a former zoomie. If I had it to do all over again, I'd go Navy.

/johnny

7 posted on 06/14/2012 12:49:03 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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Remember, you are frustrated now with academia but the Army always looks better when you are a prospect than when you are a customer.

lol...that is true.

Just another thing to keep in mind, as you say "it's now or never" but school will always be there.

8 posted on 06/14/2012 12:49:15 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: John Will

Graduate school will always be there, but you are correct, your chance at OCS will not always be.

BTW, you might also consider med school, engineering, or business, as opposed to a PhD in chemistry.


9 posted on 06/14/2012 12:49:28 PM PDT by iowamark
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First year of a PhD in Chemistry and so far I'm hating the academia.
Sooooo, you want to run away and join the circus (Army)? What will you do if you hate the Army?
I'd take a semester off and then re-evaluate. Maybe you're just burned out; maybe chemistry isn't your thing after all; maybe it's the school.
Going to OCS is great, but it's quite a commitment.
10 posted on 06/14/2012 12:49:43 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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FYI, BS Chemical Engineers make more money than PhD Chemists.


11 posted on 06/14/2012 12:50:24 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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I would encourage you to go Army (or Navy) but for the fact that we no longer have actual military forces.

They’ve morphed into uniformed social experiments. (And not very good ones.)


12 posted on 06/14/2012 12:51:21 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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What do you want to do in the military?


13 posted on 06/14/2012 12:51:55 PM PDT by paterfamilias
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Use a systematic approach to making your decision. If you have a MS, there’s a chance that you could get into a technical field either as a civilian employee or as an officer in any branch of service. Ask the military liaison at your school what he/she would do.


14 posted on 06/14/2012 12:52:20 PM PDT by oneolcop (Lead, Follow or Get the Hell Out of the Way!)
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I don’t know. If you have your masters, how much more time in do you need for your PhD? Finish what you’ve started, and then go into the navy. Sounds like you can have a promising future.


15 posted on 06/14/2012 12:55:06 PM PDT by pallis
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Watch some fighter jock videos and go for pilot.

Pilots out of OCS? I think not. OCS grads are the dregs of the Officer Corps. The Academy boys rule, ROTC is a poor second, and OCS are peons.

16 posted on 06/14/2012 12:59:06 PM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

That’s a pretty broad statement. I know several of both, and in my experience you are incorrect.


17 posted on 06/14/2012 12:59:49 PM PDT by stormer
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The semiconductor industry looks for MS/PHd in Chemistry.
Much better pay but limited locations.
Contact Intel in Hillsboro, OR or Phoenix, AZ.


18 posted on 06/14/2012 1:00:55 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: John Will

Talk to some officers in the chemical corpse.


19 posted on 06/14/2012 1:04:51 PM PDT by razorback-bert (I'm in shape. Round is a shape isn't it?)
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To: John Will
I'm ex-Army, but I recommend Air Force. I was stationed on AF bases my four years in Germany, and they have far better facilities than the other branches.

However, as an Army LT, you'll have much more fun as a Platoon Leader.

In my 4 years in Germany, I served in the following positions:

Platoon Leader: Chaparral and Towed Vulcan (18 mos)

Systems Maintenance Officer: about the only job I had that flat out sucked.

Asst. S-3 (Battalion Opns Officer).

S-4 (Battalion Supply Officer). My degree was Public Accounting, basically it was a matter of balancing several checkbooks. My NCOs & CW2 were the key to our success. I handled the high level stuff, and allowed them to do their jobs...usually to perfection.

If you like the challenge of being moved around in different positions, Army's the way to go.

20 posted on 06/14/2012 1:11:54 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (My dream ticket for 2012 is John Galt & Dagny Taggart!)
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