Posted on 06/11/2012 5:41:04 AM PDT by plenipotentiary
Both Barack Obama II and Stanley Ann Dunham are invented personas.
A male child was born, probably son of Malcolm X and an unknown woman possibly Jo Ann Newman (per Martha Trowbridge). The childs father knew his days were numbered so to protect his only son he arranged with his Muslim and Communist contacts, to have him brought up in Indonesia under the protection of President Sukarno. He was a member of the Presidents extended family and under the direct protection of a high ranking Indonesian special forces officer, Pak Lolo Soetoro (which was probably not his real name). Soetoro did have a wife, and Obama believed her to be his mother, but she was not.
Sukarno was removed from power in March 1967.
In 1971, Obama II was moved to Hawaii, at that point the character of Stanley Ann Dunham was created (the birth certificate they use is illegible and that indicates that it does not support the created identity, and therefor everything after that in her story is also false) to allow a connection with communist agents, the Dunham family, and allow Obama II to be mentored in Communism by Frank Marshall Davis. The Dunhams probably had a son called Stanley Armour Dunham Junior (fate unknown). They initially changed the first names to Shirley Ann, and then ridiculously to Stanley Ann Dunham. SAD was never in Seattle, Why would she go to University there and take a night school or correspondance course)
Obama I was introduce briefy as Obama II's fake father. There probably was a real son of Obama I, but he was sidelined (maybe the Roman Obama who was stranded in KGB training school in Moscow)and the person we now know as Barack Obama II took his identity.
Obama II is a creature of the KGB and the Muslim Brotherhood, who both share aims to impose their way of life on the USA.
BWAHAHAHAHAHA
If his real mother is already known why the hell would I want to waste my time looking for what's already known and is being concealed from the public?!
Don’t bother yourself over it, I’m getting really tired of those who make demands and thump the table, and then when something of interest is placed on a forum, do their best to be as destructive as possible. There are no end of reasons why the efforts of so many were being conducted in the background.
Capice?
btw, there is one blog that is devoted to pure research, and if a disrupter shows up, he’s gone within seconds. FOR ANYONE SERIOUSLY WANTING TO CATCH UP:
I’m no blog pimp...but there are facts and timelines here every freeper should know and they are quickly accessable.
You forgot the part about the mother ship.
Thanks for the link, I think I have it buried some where but forgot. Will visit.
Okay, so a general “don’t let the enemy know everything you plan and are up to” should suffice.
Research is still going on, not everything is known. Why are you being so purposely antagonistic? I don’t understand your purpose.
So I'll just give you a link instead...TransPerfect
I'm pretty sure you could Google some other translation service company if they're not near you.
Why are you being so purposely antagonistic?
I'm not being antagonistic. Someone on this site claims to know who the actual "real" mother and extended family are and I simply don't understand what good comes from the continued concealment of that information.
Break the news! Let the world in on it. If he's lied then no way is he getting elected again. If he lied he should be impeached and every piece of legislation he has signed should be overturned and every person appointed should be booted NOW!
If it's guesswork, and nothing more than that, then it should be stated that it's guesswork and nothing more.
That's asking for open honesty, it's not being antagonistic.
You are a lawyer of some repute, aren't you David?
It is not guesswork, and I have explained several times why every single fact has not been made public, and a ten year old could see the need.
But this sort of back and forth merely distracts from the substance of the discussion.
I have translations that are imperfect to say the least, it’s from AUDIO, the speaker uses a great deal of local idiom, Indonesian appears to be a very strange language, they interchange he and she and call sisters brothers...and automatic translation links are useless, but thank you, they need TEXT, I do not have any.
Tagalog is like that, I have a good friend from the PI and in fact talked to her just this morning, she still mixes up “he and she” constantly.
There are no end of reasons why the efforts of so many were being conducted in the background.
"...were being conducted...", not are being conducted.
That implies "the efforts" are completed with some results. If they aren't then it would (or should) have been worded in a different manner.
Capice?
If you had read as much of these research threads as I have, you would have read recently, more than one time, that research is still ongoing. Most in the past, since it was started a few years ago, but still ongoing.
It seems you have now adopted the vocation of being a burr under the saddle. Useless to try to communicate with you any more. Too bad.
...I have explained several times why every single fact has not been made public...
I simply don't buy your reasoning. This would be the biggest breaking news story this nation has ever seen.
But this sort of back and forth merely distracts from the substance of the discussion.
This discussion would be a different discussion if the real identity were actually revealed.
This discussion, hell this whole thread, is nothing more than speculation AFAICT.
By your logic, and the logic of others, Jo Ann Newman can't possibly be the "real" mother as that information is being concealed and hasn't been revealed!
It seems you have now adopted the vocation of being a burr under the saddle.
I haven't adopted any new vocation. I'm always a burr in the saddle. I've pretty much been a burr in the saddle since I got here.
That you consider me antagonistic or argumentative isn't my problem.
Something was presented which I questioned. I still question it just as I question your reasoning as to why such information, if real and known, hasn't been released.
If that doesn't set well in your bonnet then please accept my apologies. I won't stop questioning things and if that means we don't talk again then fine by me. No sweat off my "body parts".
The work is ongoing. What is past tense has been forwarded, present tense is currently being compiled.
And everything you have read in any comments made on FR is from material that is generally available and totally public.
There are no secrets. The group found nothing you could not have found yourself if you had taken the trouble to look.
You can offer to assist or continue to make snide comments, I really don’t care - I am an Australian and your attitude leaves an awful lot to be desired, but that’s nothing new, I am being lambasted as a subversive on various other threads.
There are freepers circulating private mails accusing me of being deliberately misleading because I’m from the ‘other side’ - and you wonder why I don’t name names?
I can’t even trust some freepers on this site who have known me for more than nine years! I wouldn’t tell you the time of day after this.
So you show me where the "real" mother's identity has been made public.
Well, that’s a little more like it, and thank you, we did have a contact in Jakarta, a freeper...who said he would do it, but he moved to Malaysia and never wrote back. Someone will pop up eventually I hope.
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